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[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Zelenskyy didn't cancel elections, though. They're legally forbidden in Ukraine during martial law, which is only still in effect because Russia is still invading. If anyone canceled Ukrainian elections, it's Putin because the choice for Ukraine was either submit and lose elections permanently or resist and enact martial law, losing them temporarily.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy didn’t cancel elections, though. They’re legally forbidden

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, not every nation wants to deal with securing elections in an active war zone, especially against an opponent heavily incentivized and willing to put their thumb on the scale however they can.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia is clearly after the Donbass, not all of Ukraine. Elections will persist even after the almost certain conclusion, that being full annexing of the 4 oblasts. This is the sensible outcome, considering western Ukraine coup'd the president supported by the Donbass region in a Banderite takeover:

Since the Banderite coup in 2014, Ukraine has been in a civil war where Kiev has been ethnically cleansing the Donbass region. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by Ukraine and the west, meaning diplomatic solutions to the Civil War were tried, and failed.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If Russia is clearly only after Donbass, why did they open by trying to seize the capital?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If it is so, why are they bombing and loosing personnel in Sumy or Kharkiv?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think in war you only attack what you directly plan on taking?

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Even when you routinely bomb civilians?
  2. In your logic there's nothing that can disapprove your position. Good luck Mr. Gorsky.
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are you referring to Kiev shelling civilians in the Donbass region for 8 years, prompting Russia's entry into the war? Also, no clue why you're calling me Mr. Gorsky, are you accusing me of being Russian just because I think the people in Donetsk and Luhansk are human?

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

fuelled by the inflow of foreign fighters and weapons from the Russian Federation, accounts for the majority of violations of the right to life in Ukraine over the last two years

On April 12th 2014, a Russian citizen and FSB undercover officer Igor Strelkov led a group of Russian soldiers to take over Slov'yansk. Before that he was participating in annexation of Crimea which also leg to killings and torture of Ukrainian and Crimean tatar civilians and activists. He was later supported by regular Russian troops.

Since 2022 Russian aggression destroyed hundreds of cities and towns, including but not limited to Bakhmut, Mariupol, Avdiivka, Vuhledar, Soledar, Popasna. They forced mobilisation of local civilians which lead to death of est. 20-25 thousands of forcefully mobilized civilians. How about morning them and not a fantasy of a report you can't comprehend starting from the opening.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm aware that the UN report tries to blamw Russia for Kiev killing civilians and separatists, but it's still nice to see them admit that Kiev was massacring civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk. The west coup'd the democratically elected president, and installed a Banderite government. It's no surprise that they'd be seceded from and that this gov would then try to force these same people they've ethnically repressed back into Ukraine.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And you think Russia would have just traded it back for Donbass? Lol. Lmao, even.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. "Trade it for the Donbas" what are you nine?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn't have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn't really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia's war of conquest.