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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 36 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

There is a solution to all of this. Unitary WCs. Each has one toilet, one sink, at least one method for drying hands and at least one sanitary disposal for non-flushable items. Mirror optional. A toilet brush might also be a good idea.

Communal rooms should go the way of the dinosaur.

That way, anyone, regardless of persuasion, intent or comfort level, can use a toilet in peace. And if they want to invite someone else in for safety, so be it.

All the problems with this solution are excuses, and usually not very good ones.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe also a urinal in each? Too many times have I accidentally sat on stray drips from people unwilling to put up a toilet seat in unisex bathrooms.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm leaning towards no. If you're sat on the toilet in a small WC room, that urinal is going to be nearby and very close to face height. Also urinals are only really usable by half the population.

Sanitary wipes might be a better plan. Even better if they can be made reusable, but that could be too much to hope for what with the need for yet another bin, and the propensity for confused people to put things in the wrong one.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Communal rooms should go the way of the dinosaur.

obliterated by high velocity rocks?

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

evolved with the times into various forms perfectly adapted to whatever their niche may be.

just like pigeons, owls, crocodiles, finches, etc.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Thankfully, there's an even better, easier, cheaper, and just solution to this as well

Negate the ruling and allow transgender people to use the correct bathroom that is congruent with their gender identity

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

better

just

it is neither of these

its way better than bathroom bans but defintely not better than unitary wcs

it divides us, is heteronormative, and still excludes some trans people (those for whose identity there is no bathroom for (nonbinary people))

unitary wcs eliminate creeps entirely, segregation provides a flimsy superficial defense against some of them

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

International Olympic washroom, misunderstood yelling ouch bowel

[–] InternationalHermit@lemmy.today 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I believe that communal bathrooms are cheaper to build and maintain, hence we still have them, not because anyone enjoys using them.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's what he said:

excuses, and usually not very good ones.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

he

they

internet accounts are they unless otherwise specified

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

i see, does make sense here

it still is good practice

especially that often "he" is used without consideration

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Especially on Lemmy, where the users seem to fall into one of two stereotypes: ultra-nerdy dudes, and trans/NB people.

Hell, over at !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone, they may even fit both groups.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

trans/NB people

nonbinary people do fall under the trans umbrella

unless they are intersex in a particular way that they regard their nonbinary gender identity as matching what they were assigned

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans.

This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans

but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

More frequently it's individual toilets and shared sinks.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes. The few times I've run into this has been great. I think people who are used to stalls initially feel weird when they hear about it but the toilets in this setup are enclosed with floor to ceiling walls and a door. It's so much more pleasant.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Students already get up to mischief in the shared bathrooms at my college library. Sometimes their "intent" runs contrary to the mission of the college--taking illegal drugs, setting off the fire alarm, making a giant mess with toilet paper everywhere.

A minor lack of privacy (private stalls, shared sinks) can help prevent bigger issues. If someone has a medical emergency (OD, for example) there's a chance someone notices.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with that is not the students, or the layout, communal or otherwise, but the unwillingness of the institution to pay a toilet attendant.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We're in a budget crunch. Last I checked there was an unwillingness to pay for more than 1 custodian. The restrooms get dire.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The attendant doesn't have to be a custodian. The member of staff with the office closest to each bathroom is now responsible for at least checking that bathroom once an hour. It's a budget crunch. Everyone has to do their part!

And if that doesn't fix the budget crunch within a week or two, the bathrooms are now being checked.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You're devoting at least 15% of the library sysadmin's time to bathroom monitoring (the bathrooms are a long walk from the offices) assuming the bathrooms are empty each hour. You're also requiring them to knock on each locked bathroom door and get a response (currently you can check for people passed out by glancing at feet under stall doors). There's also the overhead of figuring out who is on bathroom duty when the sysadmin is out sick or working from home.

The budget crunch is at the state level, the library itself has very little ability to change it. We've already reduced subscriptions and services and staff to a skeleton crew.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

Tough times require tough measures. Either you find what the students do in there acceptable or you don't. If you don't, someone needs to check, and if not that sysadmin, then it's going to have to be someone even further away.

One alternative would be to have the restrooms be locked and to be unlocked on request. How key management works with that I leave open.

This would be ideal if there was a suite of unitary WCs, because one key per room per person.

Not ideal in the case of emergencies, I grant you, but then, you don't want to be using a filthy restroom in an emergency either, so I guess go the whole way into that and put a chemical toilet somewhere outside nearby. OR the old outhouse with hole in the ground if you can't stretch to that.