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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the only real solution to it would be creating a standard to all browsers, which is what tor does

there you go. do that to firefox.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this would imply not being able to resize your window for example... you cant do that to a general purpose software. you need to useba tool that fits your needs. it would be the equivalent of complaining about Debian not being an amnesiac distro. Tails exists for this...

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this would imply not being able to resize your window for example

Or it would let you resize and report the same size as everyone else.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's spoofing, spoofing makes you stand out more...

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean? If all Firefox users report the same size, than you are one of many. That's the point. It makes you stand out less. Off course this works only if you are not the only one that sticks out and its the default.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

this is one thing, do you understand how limiting it would make the browser? its not just window size, this is one example. and afaik if you spoof your window size you can break rendering of pages. again, you're comprimising everyday usage. im not saying there isn't a way at all, maybe there is, but it's not some trivial thing, ive followed arkenfox for quite a few years and they've been saying the same. the amount of time it takes to make a redesign is nothing to making an unfingerprintable browser. if that's even a thing. and remember that you cant spoof everything.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that? I'm just talking about the point you were making earlier about resizing the window. You said it would imply that not being able to resize our window for example, and I just provided a possible way to do exactly that. That's all. And then counter argued your follow up point it would contribute to make me stand out more, that it in fact would decrease the possibility to stand out, not increase.

I'm not arguing that it would work for every webpage without breaking it, nor did I talk about the entire finger printability of a browser.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Users report the same size, fingerprinters now ignore this. They do still use JavaScript to determine the actual size of the window, and likely your resolution along with it.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

If the browser is programmed to report a single size, then its impossible for JavaScript to determine the actual size. Because all JS would get is the same resolution. That's the idea of the suggestion.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

since you mention it, firefox has a feature where it launches with a generic predetermined window size so you blend in. even then screen resolution can only get them so far.

i'm not calling for firefox to be tor, just that everyday software must be more private too.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yes, tor uses that feature to make all users look the same, if you resize a bit your tor window that's it. you can be identified. for fingerprinting to work every browser would need to look the same. this means no extensions, no difference in window size, same settings, etc. do you think that's actually feasible for an everyday browser? really?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

i know. but each point you touched can be improved upon. my point is that browsers are too transparent to third parties, and that should be one of the priorities.