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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

the Vatican is not a temporal kingdom anymore, and the Pope is technically the ruler of the Vatican, thats why he is referred to as that, not the King, just a Ruler.

And Unam Sanctam declares papal supremacy over all earthly rulers because in the Catholic Faith, you should listen to the Pope way more than your earthly ruler and Jesus told us not to worry about what we will eat, wear, drink, etc and the nations of the world, and to focus your desires onto the kingdom of God

The Vatican is again, NOT CURRENTLY, an empire, so it does not have imperial power

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (6 children)
  1. so you concede that it was a temporal kingdom, for over a thousand years. the pope still holds all the kingly titles, he just lost the armies to enforce them

  2. this completely confirms my argument- this is exactly the kind of conflation of spiritual authority and temporal authority which the catholic church has used to exterminate its enemies. it just lacks the power to do it these days.

  3. 'not currently an empire': you are arguing against a point i didn't make

i accept your concession

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

when I realize some people will never change their minds when they have become stiff necked but if I sigh and stop, their soul is my burden.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

you mistake your own pride for grace, that is prelest

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