Most of the anti-LGBTQ+ rethoric in AES countries is cultural and has existed long before socialism, not due to socialism. Can't speak for other cultures but as a Chinese immigrant in Canada, I've never met more LGBTQ+ phobic people than older anticommunist Chinese immigrants. That's literally their biggest complaint about Canadian culture and they compare it to the communism they "escaped" all the time. Word for word what your white boomer uncle says but with some of that toxic "if you dare disagree with your elders you're the scum of the earth" traditional Chinese mentality sprinkled in.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Very true. Personally, my complaint isn't one of guilt but responsibility: It is not the government's fault, but it is its responsibility, and the parties have in the past engaged in the same anti-LGBTQ+ discrimination as their forebears. This isn't a gotcha against communist governments, but a genuine request to do better.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I do remember reading about how "traditional values" are enforced more strictly in collectivist societies so there is some extra struggle for LGBTQ+ rights.

Also a personal anectode. I grew up in Iraq and eastern Turkey mostly, the main group that supports trans people were anarchists followed by socialists and communists.

People that want to westernize and "be more like America" not so much.