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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Now do mining. And transportation. And reactors not blowing up. You know, all those simple to solve problems.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Mining, yeah, that is an issue, but we can solve that.

Before any mine is permitted to open, there should be the requirement to establish an independent environmental fund, the fund will be started with a lump sum, and every year X% of the value of the minerals extracted that year will be put into the environmental fund.

That fund is then used to clean up the site and restore it as much as possible.

Transportation? Most countries (including the US) have working freight rail system, cheap and one of the most environmentally friendly ways of overland transport.

Reactors not blowing up? That is an extremely uncommon failure mode. It is mostly solved by planning, don't build in seismic active areas, select the correct type of reactor, establish safe procedures and have a disciplined and well trained workforce.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

So wake me up when all of this has been solved. (Note the tense.) All kinds of things "can be done safely". (Note both the tense and the mood.) The point is they're not being done safely. In theory LLMs don't have to be death spiral machines. In reality they all are.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing not being done safely is mining.

The rest is and has been for decades.

Coal and oil powerplants emit far, far more radiation than a nuclear plant, that is on top of all the normal shit in smoke.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So in your world trains never derail, trucks never crash?

Here on planet Earth...

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It happens, sure, but very rarely.

And with the nuclear containment cars, it doesn't really matter in terms of radiation, they are so over engineered that they don't break.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I like the world you live in. I recommend you avoid Earth.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I live in reality, not made-up-bullshit-land.


Look, it's fine if you dislike, but if you are going to argue against it, please argue with facts.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -5 points 17 hours ago

That's the name of your planet? Cool cool cool.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Unlike oil, that is SO SAFE that we never saw an environmental catastrophe caused by an oil tanker spilling its cargo...

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -1 points 14 hours ago

Ooh! Whataboutism! Absolutely not an irrelevant injection here, not in the slightest!