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[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That seems a little American-centric to me. Other countries have successfully voted themselves out of fascism. France with Le Pen, Hungary with Orban, I might even count Ukraine and Poroshenko, although that required a war too. We will see about the AfD in Germany and others of course, but Europeans clearly haven't given up with democracy and still believe that fascism can be kept at bay through coalition building, compromising, and keeping the public informed.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There are left-wing parties in Europe that are able to present alternate explanations and a wider range of policy solutions. To defeat fascism through electoralism requires that, and that has not been permitted within the Democratic party.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

There are left leaning blocs within the Democratic party too. The coalition governments that formed as a result of voting against fascists, Magyar, Zelenskyi, Macron, even Merz were all centrists leading a large coalition of pro-democracy politicians.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

But the left has terms for joining those coalitions and are offered something in exchange. In America, they won't even give us purely symbolic concessions line a Palestinian speaker at conviction.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

You're really trying to sell the ascension of genocidal demons like Merz as a reason to vote for liberals?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are left leaning blocs within the Democratic party too.

And the genocide wing does everything it can to oppose them instead of opposing the actual fascists centrists want to be.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Other countries have successfully voted themselves out of fascism. France with Le Pen, Hungary with Orban, I might even count Ukraine and Poroshenko, although that required a war too

Please tell me this is a bit