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bye bye~! let this happen to the rest too. i hope the airline industry crashes and has to be nationalized or some shit idk. better than this. anything would be better than the current mess we have.
I suppose there is a lot to get better, like making airlines actually enforcing the "personal item rule", its one of my biggest annoyances with flying in the US. So many huge bags and people trying to stuff them everywhere. Let people have luggage in the hold again for free.
On the other hand, adjusting for inflation, I have continually paid less to about the same for similar length flights (including luggage fees) since the early 90's. I miss meals, but the box o' sandwhich and a free drink hasn't been horrible. Maybe its sticking with one airline.
Outside the US, I still get served drinks in a glass and a hot cookie or pastry, and often a free alcoholic drink on some of the smaller airlines, so US: you could do better.
In reality they will consolidate to 2 companies that collude on price fixing but don't get broken up, and you'll eat shit and smile like a good consumer.
At this point I agree, but solely because I'm from Boeing country, and holy mother of fuck do I hate Boeing and the absolute horseshit they've been doing for the last 20 years.
Fuck McDonnnell Douglas, goddamn finance bros wore Boeing like a skin suit and destroyed the company.
I think there will be a time in the future where people will look at how frivolously we travelled around the world with a level of disgust.
Why does it have to be in the future? I feel that way right now.
There's nothing wrong with travel. It's airplane emissions that's the problem
Its billionaires emissions that are the problem...
what do you mean? just because there were like 200 private aeroplanes at some billionaire's wedding, doesn't mean the billionaires are at fault!
just in case
/sPer passenger per mile, the emissions are less than cars and ships...
Every source I’ve ever looked at has flights pegged as the most polluting form of passenger travel. Plus the pollutants are deposited directly into the upper atmosphere, which no coal rolling asshole in a dually can ever accomplish. That further magnifies their impact. I’d interested in where you’ve drawn your conclusion from.
I can't seem to find the post that had the chart because Lemmy's search function is ass, but I found this one that's similar:
The one I was thinking of listed different types of rail, and a couple of them were more polluting than airliners.
Don't get me wrong, I love trains and most of them are among the lowest-emitting options. But the notion that commercial airlines are the most polluting seems to be a misconception on a per-passenger basis. Private jets, maybe, because they have fewer passengers.
What's the alternative though? High speed rail would be nice, but since that won't happen, you'd just have all those people driving cars instead.
Why won't it happen? High speed rail is a mature proven technology
Not in this country. It’s nearly impossible to get the land to make it possible. Then it’s the fact that large districts are far apart. The economics of rail are tough. You take a 4 hour flight, it becomes a 16 hour rail trip.
Because Big Oil doesn't profit from high speed trains, since those trains don't run on fossil fuels (at least not directly). And everyone knows Big Oil rules the US in truth. Every president is just more or less a puppet from them.
Because there's zero political will to do so, our nation is huge, and there's no land to build this rail on without lots of eminent domain seizures.
What's the alternative?
Names existing, tried and tested alternative that has been working well for 200 years
Naw, can't do that, it'd be hard.
(This is you)
Id love to see a bullet train from LA to Tokyo
Okay please point out all these high speed rail projects happening around the country. AFAIK there's only one in SoCal and its been delayed for years and several orders of magnitude over budget. You people act like its just a matter of snapping your fingers and we suddenly have a high speed rail network, walkable cities, and no need for cars or airplanes.
I'm not opposed to any of this but we're just as likely to get transporter technology to rid ourselves of cars. Don't get mad at me for bringing you guys back down to earth.
I mean it's not like I think trains come from magic. The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. If you never start, it will never exist.
There’s one in Texas that seems to have high potential of actually happening.
https://www.texashsr.com/project/
I know: Zeppelins.
The alternative is simply not going on a jaunt to Greece. It's a luxury.
People complain video games have too many micro transactions, but they learned from the American airline companies.
I can take a 2hr trip in Asia and get a full damn meal.
I went to rural Thailand back in 2007 to teach English for a month with a group from my university. Our plane died at the gate in Miami and, in order to make all of our connections to get to Thailand we made last minute changes that put us on Thai Air from LAX. Best damn flight I've ever been on and it was in basic, seated in the absolute middle of the middle section and I'm someone who's unable to sleep on a plane unless I have the window. So I was awake for most of those 17.5 hours. Plane was beautiful, crew was beautiful and friendly. There was framed art on the walls and multiple full meals on the flight.
EDIT: Forgot to finish before I posted. The trip back we took Northwestern Airlines and, hoo boy. Meals were served out of a sense of obligation, stacked at last seat of the row to be passed out ourselves. When we hit the part where they wanted people's seat backs and tray tables up they just went down the row and grabbed end seats with people asleep in them and pushing them up. Such a stark difference.
Yeah, our airlines suck. Every time I take any airline that's non American based (i.e EU or Asia) the experience is wild. Hell I got free alcohol on the Dutch airlines they didn't care lol
God damn son, you commie fuck, won't you think about the shareholders?
Some guy could buy his 3rd yacht if you weren't so fucking greedy that you need to be "treated like a human being with a modicum if dignity"