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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 23 hours ago

Can you explain this to me like I'm dumb? Cause I am. Is this making fun of the people who choose someone who's literally not connected to the track?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i'm somewhat of a centrist so i think it's gotta be somewhere between these two:

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those are both encapsulated at the bottom of the meme!

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i mean not really, it's not out of moralism that i choose not to vote for genocidal warmonger red/blue, in fact the moralism is thinking voting for genocidaires is 'pragmatic'. not to mention continuing to votescold people over a year later lmao

organizing outside electoralism builds actual power. voting for slightly different managers of the same bloodthirsty war machine doesn't

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Voting for neither is the same as voting for both.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Voting for neither is the same as voting for both.

if voting for neither is the same voting for both, then can we formally acknowledge that my vote makes zero difference and maybe people can stop votescolding?

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

No, because voting for one is not the same as voting for neither/both.

Voting for the perfect candidate > voting for A > not voting > voting for B

The perfect candidate didn’t exist, but instead of choosing the second best option, you chose the third best option, and we ended up with the worst option because a lot of people did what you did. Thanks a bunch.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While organizing outside electoralism is great, electoralism is still the primary way power is apportioned in this country. Abandoning electoralism is ceding power to people who will use it for evil.

The stakes are the future of the world.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if the 'future of the world' hinges on genociding an expendible out-group and the system is powerless to change that, then i choose to walk away from omelas

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Congratulations on standing by your principles instead of by your morals.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It must be so nice having worldviews that can be fully encapsulated by trolley memes

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well first you gotta gimme an example of one that wouldn’t fit.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I guess the view that I want to articulate could be represented as a trolley meme with the following changes:

  1. The lever has only some unknown probability of steering the trolley's path
  2. Millions of other people also influence the lever to degrees which are unknown
  3. The track splits into at least 10 different paths instead of two
  4. There are more splits off of each subsequent path
  5. Each path also produces benefits to some actors (not sure how we'd represent that)

If I try to simplify these changes, though, then maybe I could depict my view a bit like this?

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ngl I seen trolly memes set up like this before :p

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Either way, you gotta have your hand on the lever!

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over.

Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Needs to be updated to add the Iranian flag to the GOP track. Man, do I wish there were a realistic way to choose that bottom track!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

funnything in rick and morty, the very same episode supernova says"what is is-rayel" referring to israel, rick and morty and FAMILY guy are 1 of the 2 shows that poke fun of the ridiculous of hte gaza/palestine conflict.