One side aligns with my views 70% of the time. The other actively wants me and everyone like me to die. I refuse to acknowledge the differences between them. I’ll actually deploy this lack of understanding as a weapon to depress voter turnout and make sure the second group gets to wield power!
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Do you not care about GENOCIDE???
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Genocide Joe!
Making sure the party that continually starts new wars in the Middle East gets elected will surely help my cause!
“Yeah but you support GENOCIDE!”
So, actually that question though? Genocide used to be a really, really bad thing, and here you're making light of it. I feel like people have lost the plot a bit if they talk about an actual genocide like this. "Yeah, sure they committed a bit of genocide, but have you seen the other guy?" I feel like I'm losing my mind
One side aligns with my views 70% of the time
False.
One side SAYS they align with their views, and then do the same shit as Republicans, and kind of just expect you to swallow excuses. Meanwhile we've watched Donald act unilaterally with near absolute power for two years, so we know objectively that the lack of power was (and is) never the problem. It was that they didn't actually support what they said they did.
You don't know his views, he could be really into fracking, small business owners, and war.
no sane person agrees with democrats 70% of the time lmao, maybe like 25% at best
You're right.
I should give Democrats credit for all the times they held power and still didn't do jack shit about the VRA except wring their hands and pretend to be powerless to stop the judicial repeal of it. (2006, 2013, 2021, etc. etc. etc.)
After all. Actually doing stuff requires effort, and it's unreasonable of me to expect the opposition party to actually oppose things.
My favorite thing about these threads is anytime someone like you makes an actual argument for your position, rather than just a snappy meme, the Kamalaposters just downvote and never reply. Probably curled up in a corner telling themselves you're just a bot and they don't need to listen to your evil words.
I think that, after decades of inaction at the incremental destruction of the VRA, one has to kinda admit that Democrats really just agree with Republicans. They own the policy too now, just as with every fascist policy they spoke out against and then either did nothing to stop or actively encouraged.
I tried to understand this but I couldn't figure out how to draw it as a trolley so I'm just gonna have to conclude you're a bot. Or if not that a shill. Or if not that just stupid. Sorry
And it's always the fucking trolley problem lmao. Libs can only hold like two surface level factoids about any given topic every four years or so.
Not to mention, the point about the trolley problem is how it has a million complicating factors but libs are like "no, I solved it, crank on that fuckin lever or you're a monster tankie Chinese ruzzian bot"
Here’s an outside perspective: Regardless of who is in the White House, the U.S. forces other countries under its thumb - using the tools of predatory capitalism, which is represented by the political parties in the U.S. no matter who's in office. For the rest of the world, the only difference is whether this happens openly, as it does now, or is nicely disguised, as was the case with an eloquent president like Obama.
So there is just as little of an alternative for the world as there is for US citizens. Of course, we would like to see someone in power in the US with whom one can at least somewhat reason, but in essence it makes hardly any difference.
This is the reality for the world and also for US citizens.
Naturally, in this system, the logical response is to vote for the Democrats because they are the lesser evil.
However, that does not solve the fundamental problem for anyone. The problem lies in the fact that the US is by no means a democracy, as it is portrayed through Hollywood and all that.
The US is an oligarchic system very similar to today’s Russia. These are simply facts.
Posts like this don’t change the facts: If US citizens want a life worth living, there is simply no way around overthrowing the existing system.
It’s that simple, because even the U.S. Constitution, which was drafted with slave-holding states in mind, stands in the way of democracy.
What I’m saying here is simply reinforced by the fact that in the richest country in the world, there are no social benefits whatsoever, as are more than common in all democracies.
Malcolm X said:
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
MLK said similar things. The longer I live, the more I feel this sentiment. The genocide in Gaza cemented this. Never, ever, mistake a liberal for an ally.
That WAS a MLK quote.
Malcom X said liberals are like foxes. They look like they're smiling but then they'll backstab you.
Malcom X said things more like this:
Brothers and sisters, I'm here to tell you that I charge the White man. I charge the White man with being the greatest murderer on earth. I charge the White man with being the greatest kidnapper on earth. There is no place in this world that that man can go and say he created peace and harmony. Everywhere he's gone he's created havoc. Everywhere he's gone he's created destruction. So I charge him. I charge him with being the greatest kidnapper on this earth. I charge him with being the greatest murderer on this earth. I charge him with being the greatest robber and enslaver on this earth. I charge the White man with being the greatest swine-eater on this earth, the greatest drunkard on this earth.
MLK said that exact thing. That quote is from his "letter from a Birmingham jail," not anything Malcolm X said.
One is a good cop, the other is a bad cop. But the good cop enables the bad cop. So both are still pigs.
Amazing how people can know of the whole "Good cop, bad cop" routine and still fall for it. It really is an effective tactic, even at scale.
Definitely kicked the hornets nest with this one OP lol
There's entirely too many people who let perfect be the enemy of better in this thread
The take seems to be along the lines of "only a revolution will fix this", and then they don't do a revolution. So while we wait to get that pie in the sky by and by, I'll keep on going for a improvement.
I can't tell whether bots/foreign agents are starting to substantially infiltrate Lemmy or if there's just that many dumbass "both sides" dipshits on this platform.
Average lemming when 6 conservative Catholics appointed by Republicans gut voting rights: I can’t believe the leftists did this!
JFC the amount of people in this thread who want a more palatable tyrant to be the next president, is concerning.
Good thing most of these never leave their parents’ basements though.
My standpoint is this: I feel betrayed by the betrayals, I'm frustrated by the things Democrats didn't do when they were in power. I accept as an unfortunate reality, at least some 1-15% of the Democratic party (can absolutely be more!) is corrupt and cares only about the NASDAQ, themselves, or Israel and ethnostates. That bloc will vote hard against anything pro-American like healthcare, defunding ICE, or defunding Israel. They might even pretend to support those things at times when no vote will pass.
There's also more than a few timid, ineffective Democrats that are only voting for obvious wins, and won't vote against any appointments because they don't want attention on themselves.
A lot of that, ultimately, doesn't matter. That type of opportunistic traitor, or coward, doesn't get much of a mechanism in a supermajority, where their choice to stand against Democrats doesn't even buy them anything; when over 50 seats in the Senate are NOT bought out by corporate interests.
By all fucking means, pick out the betrayals, watch people's individual voting records, vote in primaries, and raise a stern eyebrow anytime a voter tells you they "vote blue, no matter who". But don't pretend you can't look past nuance. We're dealing with a mammoth (R)ogue political party, which is the unfortunate reality, and even cutthroats could decide they benefit from taking credit in its destruction.
Thank God the Democrats sacrificed their majority to keep the filibuster
I mean if one guy murders 7 people and the other murders 70, sure there's a difference, you're right.
Maybe Dems should try standing for something more than the status quo.
at least it exposed who supports the israel, aipac 100%. last thing the dinos want is Madmamis, aocs, and bernies being elected to the houses, and now PLATNER in maine of course. david hoggs was suppressed from the DNC. and there was an iraq war veteran that tried running to expose the hubris of congress.
