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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Western scholars:"

No, "Western scholars" are not saying this; news outlet France 24 did, and clearly as an obvious, reader-friendly oversimplification of the formal 1901 taxonomic description of Okapia. No "Western scholar" thinks that a taxonomic description is inherently discovering it.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's not discovery. That's classification. Huge difference, it was already well known to exist, classification just describes what it is, puts it into a category, and create subcategories within the group.

People knew about gravity long before physicists did the mathematics requred to model it.

Or as a biology example, was the dog, cat, horse, sheep, or cow only discovered when they were classified by biologists in like, what? The 1800s? Earliest 1700s?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That’s not discovery. That’s classification.

Literally how did you read my comment and think that I was saying that it's discovery? Or if you're talking about France 24: yeah, everyone here knows; hence "oversimplifying".

But thanks for explaining basic taxonomy to me. I really needed it. (Yes, the 1700s.)

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

God forbid you expect supposed "journalists" working for a massive news outlet to use precise terms. If they can't communicate a concept as simple as discovery vs classification of an animal accurately you expect them to communicate actual news accurately?

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Writing it was "discovered less than 150 years ago" is way more than a reader-friendly oversimplification, and it absolutely is not obvious to someone with no expertise in this stuff. Without seeing this discussion, I for sure would've thought that they're claiming nobody knew the animal even existed before that. And I don't have the knowledge to even recognize that as a claim worth fact-checking, let alone correctly interpret that they meant something different. So yeah, not great journalism here.

https://xkcd.com/2501/