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It's Because every day I am hearing about how awful men are. We can't even have our own safe spaces because we can't be trusted. I am constantly being told about how much dumber and more dangerous we are then women. Hell, you even made assumptions of me being some incel freak
Did you see the thing just last week where there was a massive online “rape school”? Where millions of men were online sharing videos of their drugged spouses and girlfriends?
Men are afraid that women won’t like them. Women are afraid that men will kill or rape them.
How do people not understand how patently ludicrous this line of thinking is?
Why are men unable to put aside their emotions anyone someone points out that lots and lots of men do fucked up things, and are systematically supported?
You hear some men, and because you think emotionally, you hear “all men.”
Rapist in my state almost killed three teenage girls. He got court ordered therapy and community service.
Tulsa’s DA was just complaining about mandatory minimums for rapists.
And are we fucking forgetting that for 99% of human history, and still in most of the world, women didn’t get to learn to read? Go to school? Got married off as children?
Marital rape wasn’t illegal in every US state until 1993.
Projection. I did nothing more than simply point out an obvious logical fallacy.
Lots and lots of women do fucked up things, too. If someone reacted to a story about a woman throwing her newborn baby into a dumpster with "geez, what is wrong with women?" you would get, justifiably, offended at the generalization.
There's no need for a double standard, one standard will do just fine.
That doesn't look like 'systematic support' to me.
More projection, especially considering you've dived headfirst into "all men" yourself just above.
Meanwhile, I couldn't even get charges pressed against my female rapist.
Your empathy gap is showing.
I like how first you accuse me of emotionally extrapolating "some men" to "all men", and then you literally do just that, using individual cases of men doing shitty things as argument against my saying not to generalize men.
You don't even realize how blatantly you're exposing yourself.
Even though women rape men just as often as men rape women (it just doesn't seem so because of successful lobbying to have unwanted female on male sexual contact labeled with a term other than "rape" so that it wouldn't be included in "rape statistics"), it still is effectively legal for women to do so. See how long it takes you to find a woman who was convicted for raping a man.
A woman can molest a male child, get herself pregnant, wait until he's of age, and then successfully sue him for back child support. Good luck finding a case of a man legally winning child support from the girl he molested.
I wonder what Nick Olivas would have to say about that "systematic support" that you claim favors males so heavily.
Can you give me individual numbers of those incidents versus incidents of violent rape, domestic violence, and statutory rape?
Yes. Bad people exist everywhere.
On the whole, the system is set up to help bad men. There is systemic oppression of women. The fact that the US elected a man who went on tape proudly described sexually assaulting women indicates this. The fact that every woman in my immediate line was teenager impregnated by an adult man. The fact every teenage girl is taught to how to put the keys between her knuckles as she walks somewhere late, the way that packs of adolescent boys or “men in a car” have been a signal of instant threat to all women ever.
I got dog whistled as a teen. I dressed about as strange as I could be I can still go find a Facebook message of relative who confessed things to me. It’s just universal if you grow up female.
Which gender is in prison for violent crimes? What are the leading causes of deaths for pregnant women?
Only the number given was visitors who went to the site as a while which was just a regular porn site. The people who actually had anything with the 'academy' was a thousand.
Not that itnmatters to you I am guessing
How many people are jerking to those videos on motherless right now?
When was the last time several thousand women organized groups to discuss raping men?
Oh we did worse we got a whole comm on piefed where if a cismale comments as a cismale they get asked nicely to stop posting because it's a comm for enbys, cis and transwoman to speak
I was explicitly denied a job because I’m a trans guy and that’s kinda common man. Im sorry there’s a couple of Internet forums you can’t post too, I wouldn’t have been able to get a bank account 50 years ago.
Pretty much 99.9 of women through most of human history, and a good chunk today, were effectively property. Occasionally times a bit better - right to divorce, consent to marriage, property rights, inheritance, ability to get a job…..
Things don’t magically change over night. I don’t know, I’m just a trans man that got recommended and took a special “careers for girls” elective that was nurse or cosmetologist.
Bud, i'm cisfemale and that comment above? That was sarcasm.
If you want to create a safe space for men, nothing is stopping you. Be the change you want to see instead of complaining about women doing it. How do you think they got it? They made it and fought for it.
I am not sure if you're trolling on purpose or not. I think it's irrelevant. I have a simple rule for life. Don't be a dick.
How am I being a dick?
You simply do not have to identify with men.
I may be a man, but I remember what it was like to be a child and have a bigger person use their strength against me. So when I hear about a man doing that to a woman or white people doing that to minorities, I make the conscious decision to identify with the victims because I remember being a victim.
Your identity is your choice.
I was with you until the end. Identity is not a choice for a lot of people.
Identify might have been a poor word, they're using it in the "empathise" sense, but everyone's automatically linking it to gender identity (for obvious reasons)
Well said, although I'm pretty sure the person I initially replied to is just a troll.
That's TERF nonsense.
It is when you have a 'default' identity. Like men.
This thread is proof that many feminist would gladly throw trans people under a bus if a woman ran for president as a republican
Society is full of safe spaces for men.
If you don't want people to assume you're an incel, don't act like one.
Got an example that has not been over run with alt right dipshits?
Have a squizz for anything that mentions mental health. It's like kryptonite to dipshits.
Not really, they do bring it up. Mostly it's a lie but it's more then ehat you get from most leftist spaces.
https://usmenssheds.org/
I feel like I can't even trust that not to be some hidden nazi shit.
I'm posting this from the men's bathroom.
Men's safe spaces are the default.
Taking some examples from my personal life : most gyms, many sports clubs, most gaming communities, barbershops, men's addiction recovery groups, are places where men can feel very comfortable being themselves and taking all the space without little to no pushback. Some have alt right dipshits, some don't. Find the right ones.
This comment thread is a prime example. Looking at the scores it's implied that I should bow down to the needs of entitled men instead of having them work on themselves and curb their unhealthy need to have total control of everything everywhere. That's what a male safe space looks like, so add Lemmy comment sections to the list above. Might feel hard to read, but I'm not one of those people who will pat you on the back just for existing. Being mad at the existence of women's only spaces instead of looking for spaces that would fit you is unhealthy behavior. Other people are allowed to exist outside of your control. Work on yourself. If you can't do it alone, try therapy. It worked for me.
All those places are expected to accept women or become alt right shit holes. I am not even against women only spaces. I just wish we can have liberal men's places.
And no, I can't afford therapy
Then build something instead of looking for people to blame.
That easy, huh?
It's not easy. Nothing worthwhile is. But no one is stopping you.
When I said I am not smart enough to do it I mean I do not know how to keep it from being toxic.
Can't even get a sub on lemmy or reddit without it turning to shit.
I mean, do you honestly want a space for non dipshit men? Because like the other poster said, you would have a hard time being accepted into the spaces I've helped build.
What are those spaces then? Because I would at least would like a chance to try.
Edit: nm. I am not going to deal with someone who voted for stien with the nerve to call me a dumbass.
Haha yeah you don't deserve a chance
You never were going give it anyway
Yeah bro I've got tight friend groups all over the city of mostly straight white men, we totally don't work with people like you.
It's actually the fact that we're not dipshit assholes like you. You shidding and crying about spaces for men would get you thrown out of our spaces because it's the literal first step about being a man in a patriarchal society to learn about how that society functions and it's impact on people around you. And if you had done that very small amount of work, you would realize that what you're whining about is absurd and makes the world around you less safe for all marginalized groups.
Which is why instead of voting against trump you threw your vote away for a hopeless candidate
I know it's going to be difficult for you to grasp but people have morals and sometimes stand by them, even in such small ways as voting.
Conservatives tell themselves the exact same thing. I didn't even want to vote for Hilary, Biden or Harris l. But I did anyway because I am an adult. People have died to achieve less for their goals, you can't even vote for someone you don't like.
Have you ever been sexually harassed at work or school?
I have actually.
What do you think the numbers look like for girls being sexually harassed in school versus boys being sexually harassers in school? I know what the numbers have looked like in my classroom. I’ve seen boys get together in GROUPS, to sexually harass individual girls. To the point the girls had to change schools. Deep fake AI porn.
There is one gender that this disproportionately affects, but y’all are children who seem to think that someone else’s pain being recognized is an attack on you.
You fucking realize in the US that abortion is illegal and women are dying? That the president is a rapist, who bragged about raping women, and appointed other rapists? That shit like the SAVE act is deliberately engineered to deny women the right to vote?
And I guess that is my fault?