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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 111 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Stargate: every planet is either desert or Canada.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's an ice planet!

Carter, after exiting the second gate on Earth

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Always one of my favorite parts of that episode.

You can see a decent bit depending on terrain in most places, more if the terrain is higher than surrounding areas, but she pops out of a crack, looks around and sees ice for a few hundred yards, and gives up.

In fairness, without direction, some form of marker, or obvious landmark, wandering around in a blizzard would have been death for both of them... Not that they would have been able to walk to civilization even if they DIDN'T have injuries...

Still though, they've experienced varied terrain in plenty of planets, so assuming the whole planet is ice is something Sam would have corrected someone else on in a heartbeat. (and also made the argument that for all intents and purposes, for them it may as well be a whole planet)

I wonder how much better we could have had it if the location budget were like 4x what they had. Eventually you start to recognize specific rocks in the quarry... My wife likes to call one rock Terry because it has two vaguely eye-shaped holes, and "because it's terrible how often they use that place"

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, Carter had a point. Antarctica is a terrible place to put a Stargate. The Ancients usually put them in places where people can live. She didn't know they put Atlantis in Antarctica.

Assuming that people lived near this Stargate thousands of years ago, and it's now in an arctic climate, an ice age is the logical conclusion.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

Don't quote me on this, because I can't remember the specific episode, comic, or book, but I vaguely remember the ancients settled places thy were most like their original homeworld of Alterra, and gave them the best comfort overall. That just happened to be what the Pacific Northwest region of North America looks like, so most of the planets are still pretty close to that. Some obviously have continued morphing over the millennia, but it makes a nice explanation for why everywhere looks like the same 30 mile area around their BC studio lol.

At the time they didn't really know much about the ancients, definitely didn't know that Atlantis took off from Antarctica 5 million years ago...

That's fair, however it always felt a little weird for the scientist of all people to make such a broad generalization.

[–] illi@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you share which one is Terry? I'd like to watch out for him when I inevitably rewatch the show.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a large boulder (the size of a small boulder) about 4ft wide, never seen more than waist height, a little closer to one of the "walls" of the quarry.

I'll have to find an episode with it. It's mostly visible after season 1 and before season 8 or 9. Idk what happened to uncover/bury/move it, but it does move like twice during the show, even though I'm positive it's an actual rock and not a prop.

I want to say the first time I noticed it was during the episodes where they're trying to rescue Bra'tac and Ry'ac from the mine? After tretonin was developed. (Ry'ac says "it is hard to ration that which you do not have" when Bra'tac pretends to be taking his tretonin)

When I see it again, I will definitely post to Chevron 7.

[–] illi@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, this will be a fun one

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Or a really cheap single set piece that vaguely fits the theme of an ancient earth culture that has managed to not change at all in millenia, and then there is a single high tech alien device in the middle of it.

BTW, I say that with love. Stargate is the best.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Also Star Wars... Star Wars even have a city covering an entire planet.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Star Wars even have a city covering an entire planet

Yes, they copied it from Foundation. Trantor has a perfectly fine reason for being the way it is, that would apply to Corusant too.

That is, if physics actually allowed them to be that way. Apparently Asimov didn't run the numbers on that one.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Asimov suggests that spaceships start running on coal power, after civilization collapses so far that people forget how to build nuclear engines. He was always more of a Big Ideas Guy than a Fine Details Guy.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, wasn't it a metaphor for "some nuclear reactor so rudimentary that they could as well use steam engines"? I really don't remember it well.

Anyway, he's famous for running the numbers for some things. But yeah, he absolutely didn't do it for all things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

wasn’t it a metaphor

Maybe. I just remember re-reading the book in preparation for the TV Show's release, and being somewhat set back by how low tech even the more advanced set pieces were in the book compared to the show. It makes more sense when you recognize these books were written in the 1940s, practically before rocketry was a thing. But it's still a bit of a trip to see what Asimov considered the future would look like.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Trantor is Rome and the galaxy is the empire.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

An ecumenopolis makes more sense imo. It's artificially created and a somewhat believable endpoint for population growth in the capital of a galaxy spanning civilization

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Even the desert is Canada. The desert scenes were filmed in Richmond, BC at a sand and gravel quarry (no longer there now).

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's probably more realistic. Most planets are just barren rocks that are too hot or too cold, aren't they?

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know if we have enough evidence to make such claims tbh. In our solar system, half the planets are rocks with a metal core (riffs playing in the background), the other half are gas giants. Among the gazillion moons though, there are some ice moons (like Titan and Europa), Venus only has no oceans because it is too hot, Mars has a volcanic past and may be warmer had it a thicker athmosphere and has polar ice caps, etc. There is a lot going on on these "barren rocks" and a lot of them being barren rocks could be due to them being located outside the goldilock zone.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 3 weeks ago

If there is somewhere where humans can live, then likely there are also zones nearer and further from the poles.

So e.g. surely all planets with a livable zine would have polar ice caps.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Those planets typically don't heave a breathable atmosphere, though. You pretty much need a large biosphere if you want to be able to walk around without a spacesuit. An iceball world or a barren rock probably won't contain a breathable amount of oxygen in an otherwise mostly inert atmosphere. If you want to breathe pure carbon dioxide or get fried by nearly unfiltered UV radiation, though, they'd be great.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean we have deserts in Canada too.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah but they’re cold and boring. Doesn’t make great tv.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn’t film Stargate there

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What’s that got to do with you saying the only deserts Canada has are cold and boring?

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

See what I originally replied to?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, as the person you replied to, you should pay attention a little closer to what others are saying.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes they said desert or Canada, so the person said Canada also has deserts, to which you said, “only cold and boring”. Which I nicely corrected you on.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not a desert but Vancouver is perfect for the screen! https://youtu.be/ojm74VGsZBU (Every Frame A Painting - Vancouver Never Plays Itself)

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

I watched a film years ago that actually had Toronto as the location and they actually got to showcase local stuff.

It'd be nice if Van or Vic ever got to do the same thing.

[–] Apocalypteroid@anarchist.nexus 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dr Who: Every planet is a disused quarry.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, sometimes it's a ramshackle alleyway or the back of someone's car.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Star Trek: Every planet is either a set or within driving distance of Los Angeles

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Within the TMZ, thirty mile zone, because union rules say you have to pay transportation time for workers above that limit.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is a great factoid! No idea why I'm getting downvoted.