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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m not reading all that because it’s clearly written by someone who has completely forgotten what grass looks like, but this bit:

National service should be a universal duty

Go to hell, you can throw me in jail before I do anything to help the military.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You know what, I 100% agree with that statement. It doesn't have to be military, but many countries have mandatory service usually right after high school.

I think it would instill a sense of responsibility towards their community, a sense of hard work, pride, etc. I'm talking about like working in a park, wildlife clean-up, homeless shelter food stocking, and yes also military. I don't think the military part should be mandatory, but if some people want to go that route as their "national service" then that should be an option.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes a civic service duty would be helpful, but I'm not sure making it mandatory would work out unless it were presented as one of several options.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We have already made it extremely hard to be a young adult in this country, why not add an extra helping of shit on their plates, to make older people feel better about their choices, eh?

I say let the wealthy and people with net worth over 1 million contribute this mandatory service. They've screwed this country up, lets see them do their share for the community for once in their charmed lives. Give the Jared kushners and effing pickelball players some tongs to pick up trash and string them together in a chain gang if we have to.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, the wealthy need to pay for what they've done to society, but that's not what I'm talking about.

Also in that same vein, any federal politician in the House, Senate, Executive, or SC should have to live for 2 months on minimum wage in a probationary period. Until they complete that "course", they won't be able to ascend to their elected position. So like, if they're elected in November, then they live for December and January on minimum wage, which then gives them the certification needed to be sworn in.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's always these fucking losers who would never subject themselves or their families to conscription that champion it. I wish they'd just shut the fuck up and die already

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's not the way the manifest is meant but as I see it: You can either have no army, which would be nice but unfortunately that's not how this world functions. Or you have a army. This army currently is made of people who either want to fight or they don't see another way to pay their bills.So they find it good to follow orders or don't have a choice. I find neither of them trustworthy to handle a weapon.

Now image that this army is mostly built on people between 20 and 30 years old, everyone does it's service for about a year (except higher ranks where you need more experience, let's not go to much into details). The major part of the soldiers are people with normal lives waiting for them after finishing their duty. Do you think those people would engage in a meaningless war? Or turn against their own if someone like Trump wants them to? They would fight to defend their owns but the majority wouldn't follow unethical orders.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m sure it’s not the way the manifest is meant but as I see it: You can either have no army, which would be nice but unfortunately that’s not how this world functions.

Costa Rica says hello.

The major part of the soldiers are people with normal lives waiting for them after finishing their duty. Do you think those people would engage in a meaningless war? Or turn against their own if someone like Trump wants them to?

Are we memory holing that the National Guard was deployed against multiple US cities within the past year?