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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The local compradors didn't have control over the Roman state apparatus by virtue of being colonized subjects. Pilate indeed had Jesus's blood on his hands and no amount of making a public spectacle by washing his hands changes this. The only person who outranked Pilate was the Roman emperor himself, which meant everything fell on his shoulders. He could've just freed Jesus and there was no one there to stop him because Pilate had a Roman legion under his command while the Judean compradors didn't.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He could've just freed Jesus and there was no one there to stop him because Pilate had a Roman legion under his command while the Judean compradors didn't

According to this shit he had 6k soldiers in a city of 2.5 million so uhhhh i don't think things work the way youse guys do

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Simply put, the article you link is wrong. 2.5 million number should have been a big red flag, actual estimates for the population of Jerusalem in those times are 20 to 30 thousand, swelling to 100,000 or more during the passover festival but still an order of magnitude lower than that article is claiming.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I picked one link that wasn't a reddit thread because I assumed the BBC is an actual source, i don't care enough to go through all this shit but my point was "there was no one there to stop him" is false whether it's 2.5 million or 100k. I also see tons of nerds arguing over the estimate of the actual strength of his army, I see one nerd claim he'd only have an auxiliary cohort of 600 "but could call on herod's army of around 3000 if necessary but that would have been politically awkward

There is no set of numbers im seeing here where "the romans can just do whatever the fuck they want and pontius pilate should have absolutely 0 concern over unrest" is guaranteed

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A few thousand troops seems like plenty to maintain order at a festival in a city with 100,000 men women and children, many of whom probably didn’t have strong feelings one way or the other about Jesus or might have sided with him over the religious establishment. More soldiers could be called up from nearby if really necessary. All we know for sure is Pilate was the one with the legal authority to carry out execution and he chose to do it in the particularly Roman style of crucifixion.

A few thousand troops seems like plenty to maintain order at a festival in a city

It's a whole region though

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. Most people supported or were apathetic towards Jesus because Jesus was just some random dude up until that point, or a charismatic dude who performed miracles if we take the gospel as gospel (lol). Going by history, Jesus was just some dude who most people wouldn't care about one way or another and going by the gospels, Jesus was a charismatic miracle worker who most people liked because of his miracles.

  2. The amount of people who genuinely wanted Jesus dead probably numbered in what, several hundreds at best. An entire Roman legion is shaking in their sandals over several hundred unarmed Judeans who really wanted some dude dead but lacked the initiative to just form a lynch mob and string him up a tree.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The amount of people who genuinely wanted Jesus dead probably numbered in what, several hundreds at best

Yea but which several hundreds, and how influential were they

An entire Roman legion

I found a shitty source with bad numbers and then another shitty source that questions him even having a legion so could you give me at least an equivalently shitty source that he even did?

several hundred unarmed Judeans who really wanted some dude dead but lacked the initiative to just form a lynch mob

What if several hundred influential judeans who wanted him dead were pissed off at that not happening and then used any number of reasons to rile up many thousands of others in revolt, or what if pontius pilate was made to credibly fear that result even if it weren't likely

Why was he arrested btw because idk it seems like there'd a reason for that since nameless nobodies don't just stumble onto a crucifix