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I’ve been asking for almost two years and no one will say. I get a lot of “screw you, fascist!” And “Oh, so everyone has to have a plan now?!?” amongst other head-scratching non-answers.
The most important thing appears to be to not be involved in any decisions, movements, or other political realities that might conceivably ever have a chance at existing in our lifetimes. I guess.
Honestly at this point most are indistinguishable from straight up FSB bots. Divide the left, no other goals.
you get to choose one and only one:
either the group that would not vote for harris is small enough that they don’t deserve representation, in which case the democrat establishment is to blame.
or the group that would not vote for harris is large enough to have impacted the election and deserved representation, in which case the democrat establishment is to blame.
you can’t have both
I think these are the people who choose "Do nothing" on the 5-v-1 trolley problem. i.e.: they would rather let 5 people die than take an active role in killing one. I can understand the moral argument, but it really does make for objectively poor outcomes.
The Trolley Problem isn't a correct Games Theory representation of this situation, not even close:
You have either been deceived by this propagandistic misuse of Games Theory and are now parroting it without fully understanding it or you are knowingly being deceitful for the purpose of supporting the leaders of your party.
Apathy is also participation.
They will tell you that AOC, Omar, and Mamdani aren't really 'Left' because they sided with the Dems.
Purity first last and always!
Being an opposition doesn't make you left. These aren't people that oppose capitalism they are people who want a capitalism that is easier on the domestic working class. At the expense of the imperial periphery of course, though this goes unsaid. I sort of like them but their end goal is not the destruction of capitalism.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but capitalism isn’t going anywhere in the US. You’re in a tiny echo chamber if you think that the wholesale destruction of capitalism is even a viable choice.
I don't believe we are going to destroy capitalism. I believe capitalism is going to destroy itself (or most of the world which is kinda the same thing) and we have to prepare and alternative for when that happens. This belief does not come from online message boards it comes from reading innumerable books on political economy and history. The echo chamber is where I go to find like minded people.
You are not bursting my bubble. I have existed in yours most of my life and understand it well. I have made a choice between two world views that I have plenty of experience with and I am satisfied with that choice.
I had a long chat with you about this recently. And I don't think I said "screw you fascist" or "who needs a plan?" And I think I stated it pretty clearly. If the democrats want our votes, they have to not arm genocide. Not voting for them until they stop arming a genocide is a perfectly clear way of staking that position. If literally no votes are held back for that modicum of decency then they have absolutely no reason to change. There's absolutely nothing confusing or illogical about it, and I don't know why y'all pretend you're so bamboozled by it. I mean...you can disagree, go for it. Vote blue no matter who if that suits you. That's what I think.
But you want to know what I feel? All of you are in here with a photo of two characters whose lives have been destroyed, imagining "this could be me thanks to those assholes who wouldn't vote for this to happen to other people." It's so unbelievably selfish. We all gotta just accept that Palestinians will suffer like this...that's the price we pay for it not to be us.