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Now gimme one without smart tv bullshit
Just attach your own streaming media player like Nvidia Shield or Chromecast or some other such device and you can just boot into that and bypass all smart TV features
They exist, but they're called commercial monitors
Any TV which lets you skip Wi-Fi in the setup can be a dumb TV. Most smart TVs except Roku/Fire TV let you.
Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.
I've got a 43" Aorus 4k gaming screen for my desktop. 144Hz, freesync, 2 HDMI's a DisplayPort and a USBC. There is a 48" OLED as well, but I didn't have the space for it at the time.
After using a 4k 43" for a monitor for a few years, I definitely both recommend it AND wish companies would make 8k ones.
Does anything useful even come in 8K at this point? I saw it as a spec last time I went television shopping, but it seemed like something that wouldn't be useful for another decade.
8k is effectively dead
8K was always a lie. It's impossible to tell the difference from 4K unless you're too close, 4K already has more pixels than your eyes do.
4k is about 8 million pixels. The human eye has a resolution of about 576 megapixels.
I know what you mean with your comment, but the way you expressed it is factually incorrect
Technically, all TVs have more pixels than your eyes do
I think it's already the case for 1080p at the distance most people put their TV.
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Honestly, nah. The screen is awesome, don't get me wrong, but the fact that I had to replace the main board after 1.5yrs, just out of warranty, means I definitely recommend people don't buy it. Luckily I found someone on eBay that dropped theirs, shattered the screen, and sold the internal boards for $50 shipped.
I only brought it up because it fits the requirements and I recommend the format. 4k 43"+ or 8k is goated on desktop.
He should have said commerical displays, which are basically TV's rated for long continuous use e.g. digital signage.
I haven't dealt with them in some time, but I would imagine many, if not most, do not include consumer smart tv features, although they probably have other embedded smart tech to help with stuff like signage.
No I understand he’s talking about displays, I think I must have backspaced that and undid it at some point. But those commercial displays are not built with fast response rates because they’re literally just built to display one image at a time. Using them for gaming would suck.
The smart TV part of conceptually okay, but the bullshit is unspeakable. I actually like that TVs have apps for the streaming services and stuff, if they didn't have to be evil about how they implement it. But they're evil, so here we all are, wanting completely dumb TVs.
Google TV ones have an "apps only mode" which removes the ads from the home screen.
Not sure I could trust a TV made by Google.
Google TV is an operating system which other manufacturers like Sony and TCL preinstall.
I think its the best option because it has a basic TV mode which lets you use the TV with just the antenna and HDMI ports, and if you do decide to use the smart TV features, you can use apps only mode to disable the home screen ads as well as sideload apps.
Okay, good info. Sadly, is hard to trust anything with the Google name these days.
I don't really agree that is conceptually okay. TVs and computers have drastically different life cycles. That TV will still be kicking probably a decade after the internal Smart TV computer is uselessly underpowered. This same problem is arguably even worse with cars.
I don't agree. I don't need my TV to keep up with the latest software like I do my computer. I'd like it to load apps for the streaming services and search YouTube videos. If it can do that today, it can do that five years from now.
But if a codec change or such happens (like to AV1 or h.265), it might not, we have an older 4k smart tv (Sharp Aquos LC-60UE30U) that can't handle 4k streaming without dropping to single digit fps.
Have you tried turning "Motion Enhancement" or "Aquomotion" off?
Yep, what few "features" the screen has have all been turned off, it is just kind of crap, when it got its (singular) software update, the update progress screen was displaying the top half of its frame on both halves of the screen.
Every invention this century....
I bought a 48" OLED "monitor" that has none.