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And the real maddening part is that search engines have been so enshitfied to make way for AI that's wrong like 9/10, so you're forced to rely on it for answers because if you try google, the snake wraps around and eats it's own tail giving you an AI answer! 
I never went to school for programming but I’ve worked as a dev for almost a decade. I do know binary, hex, and formal logic, but almost never use them. I’ve never written code on paper, but I’ve written informal flow diagrams on a whiteboard and on excalidraw. And my pseudo code is usually just writing out actual code where the method doesn’t exist yet. But I’ve never written pseudo English out to plan what I was doing. I’ve talked about code in pseudo code speak but mostly when other people are piloting on screen share.