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What I mean is, how do you deal with the logical conclusion that no one can ever truly be relied on and that you can always find yourself alone with no support?

Or do you disagree with this conclusion and think that some people can be relied on and that you can know that you won't end up alone?

And if you are alone, how do you deal with the inherent human yearn for others when you know that you can never truly rely on them?

Edit: To clarify, I am talking about personal relationships and not about professional or paid help.

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I contest that it is not a logical conclusion, and more likely you're suffering from loneliness and not coming to that conclusion with a clear mind.

You want people to be "truly relied on"? What does that mean? At your beck and call with whatever whims one has? People can be reliable but there are limits. Unless you yourself think it's acceptable to be everyone else's gopher.

What's your standard for being reliable that makes you, through a twisted facsimile of rationality, think you're going to be alone? Why would someone have to meet that standard to give you company?

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you are assuming a lot of things.

When I say someone to rely on, I mean someone who would show me that they want to be there for me when I'm going through tough times. I'm not even talking about necessarily being there for me, but knowing that there's someone who cares and wants to be there for you.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So where's this "logic" you speak of that no one ever does this for anyone, and it's a universal trait to not have this experience?

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That yoi can never be sure that it will happen, of course that doesn't mean that it won't

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's illogical, binary thinking. Things aren't so black and white. Some people will have an estimated 98% reliability for emotional support, some might have much lower. It's circumstantial to the person and the situation.

With your logic, unless something is 100% going to happen, it may as well be 0%. That's like, almost an inverse of a gambler thinking that even if there's a miniscule chance of winning the lottery, it's 100% guaranteed.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you are taking everything I am saying to the extreme...

The point is that you never know until you need them and they either fail you or not, and even someone that has been there for you everytime for years and you might consider to be 100% reliable, can surprise you and stop being reliable.

It is a fact that no matter your situation, you are not guaranteed to have external support, but obviously for some people it is extremely unlikely to happen and for others it is more likely.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're the one who started this thing off by speaking in extremes. Again, you're taking "sometimes some people don't support you so you won't have someone holding your hand 100% of the time" as "it's logical that you're going to be alone forever"

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna stop this here, strawmanning my point is not a good faoth argument.