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Sure, but know what else would reduce school shootings?
Less guns.
Would it? Is that the only solution?
Why do Yemen and Switzerland have such high ownership and no school shootings?
Don't get me wrong, less guns would be good for many reasons. And I think we can get there, eventually. But right now, I have zero confidence that our government is fit to enforce any law fairly. Neonazis are openly running the DoD and ICE, this is not the time to dial back the Bill of Rights.
As well some of those numbers tend to skew. There's those who have a shotgun as opposed to the images of Republicans during the holidays where everyone in the family has their own AR and we don't know what else they own.
Which is more likely, funding for better mental health services as a whole or removing guns from the unwilling?
So, Australia doesn't publicly fund mental health treatment and still hav3 way, way less gun deaths.
We also have way less guns.
You guys have stock standard excuses. None of them are true.
Boy, I bet it's that simple of a solution and not multifaceted of a problem. Not to mention I don't think Australia is in the middle of a literal fascist take over, so you know, might as well disarm to be helpless, right? Seriously, the child like mentality of guns being bad when there's social ills that plague society that results in more violence overall, not just gun violence, is annoying.
That response lacks internal logic.
The countries I mentioned, including Australia, have a multifaceted solution. Heavy restrictions on weapon ownership. A very strict permit system. A refusal to grant a permit until authorised training has been completed. A valid reason for gun ownership (such as membership in a gun club). Mandatory gunsafe compliance - the police can do spot checks on gun storage without a warrant. These are a suite of Solutions, not a single magic bean that you suggest are impossible, except they are possibly.
You refer to the likelihood of getting rid of guns because of Trump's fascist state? Is that the latest excuse? What was the problem before 2016 then?
Look, American gun culture is what it is. It probably is impossible now to reverse things. But own it and don't keep coming up with all these nonsensical excuses because they work fine in peer countries.
Racism and inequality exist everywhere, man. It just does. I've seen it in France, Germany, England, Singapore and India. It definitely exists in Australia. If you think guns will fix the problem, or even alleviate it, you will have to show me the evidence, because the US is awash in firearms and things aren't improving. Especially for POC.
What it boils down to, every damn time, is the idea of American exceptionalism. It won't work in America because reasons. Even if systems are placed in other countries, and work fine, it won't work in the states. It is one of the reasons why the US won't adopt the metric system. Only the US and two third world countries haven't made the switch. That's fine, but American exceptionalism has now led you guys into a war that nobody wanted except Israel. Even two thirds of your own country don't want it. This is not a question of gun control, it's an issue of talking yourself into a position, and defending it to the literal death of your own people.
I'm not going to try and convince you anymore. It's no skin off my nose how America runs it's own country. But Americans aren't all that special. People in other countries laugh, poop, sleep, cry, drive, walk and sing, etc. Any system can be adopted if the will of the people want it badly enough. And you guys apparently want to be the world leaders in gun deaths per capita, and that's your decision. But don't try to blame it on the belief that you are an extraordinary different people. You've not.
How about both? Why do you pretend it's one or the other?
Give free mental health support AND prohibit guns. Best of both worlds
Oh yes, gun nutters will murder people if you try and take their guns away. They will also just murder people period.
There is no mental help for these terrorists.
I'm a firm believer of firearm ownership, especially for the marginalized groups in the USA right now. That said we need better mental health services and people who have a distinct lack of empathy should not own one to begin with.
Yes, arm both sides like the fascist love to do. Clearly you have the wool pulled over your eyes.
Removal of firearms is also a fascist thing. I'd rather have an armed trans person next to me than a RWNJ. That trans person is higher likely to be mentally stable, trained, and practiced. As well given the targeting of trans people to marginalize them to the point that they can then be exterminated as is the Heritage Foundation's plan, I'm going to say you have a lousy take.
Giving guns to trans isn't going to solve the problem and you should be ashamed for suggesting it is anything other than setting people up to be killed. Your take is impossibly dumb.
You seem to think that they'll be allowed to live under this regime in the first place. Also why is it that they want to take away their ways to arm and organize exactly? What could be the reason they would want them isolated and unarmed?
Listen, I am not going to advocate for making a trans army/militia to solve our domestic problems. Go satiated your bloodlust somewhere else.
Ahh yes, self defense is blood lust. You sound more neo-liberal every post.
Go talk to someone else about your murder fantasies. Sick.
Can't offer good rebutals and doesn't deny being a neo-liberal and thus an actual fascist simp.
Says the fascist trying to arm people.
Oh lord, you sound like MAGA. Here's a hint, you can't be fascist and be a left wing person. Fascism is a far right wing ideology. Love me, love me, I'm a liberal!
Wow, first I am a Neo Lib and now I am a Maga. Good thing I can consistently call you the fascist that you are.
Tell me you're entirely uneducated about political positioning and ideologies without telling me.
Says the guy wildly throwing around political terms.
Still won't tell me why fascists want an unarmed population, especially of the easily marginalized. Still thinks communal defense is blood lust. Calls an avowed socialist a fascist, doesn't seem to understand what it really means. It's just a sad state of affairs how utterly uninformed you are. I'm no expert but I at least look up information so I'm not as ignorant. Instead you seem to revel in it.
Listen, there are more guns in the US than people. It hasn't solved our problems. People that think guns solve problems are the definition of fascists. Guns are an oppressive force and fascist recognize this. That is why they make sure to always have them.
Yes, you are no expert. You don't even have a basic grasp of what is fascism let alone that you are a fascist. You throw around terms wildly without understanding them. You push dangerous rhetoric that will get more people killed. I am struggling to see you in a positive light
And I don't see you in one at all. Because you're advocating for marginalized people to be utterly defenseless in the face of their oppression. Their lives are actively in danger from if not government than individuals. You seem to think I'm saying to go shoot someone now, I advocate communal defense. Not everyone needs to be armed but enough need to be. There's organizations that take in disowned trans teens to give them the care and support they need. They have LITERALLY had to drive off people against them that are armed with their own armaments.
As for fascism, Marx himself says under no pretext. That an unarmed work force is an easily oppressed one. Thank you for playing, buh bye.
Edit: An oh, to back myself up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_Ranch#Harassment_and_threats_against_the_ranch
Their lives are in literal danger and you're telling them nah, too much gun violence when they receive disproportionate amounts of gun violence.
This is complete hogwash, people are getting killed everyday and they are not Trans. The solution is not arming people, that is fascism speaking. The fact that you can't recognize this shows your inability to see beyond guns solving your problems.
You are a dangerous fascist that professes harmful ideology that will get people killed.
I could give a shit about what Marx said. I am not going to listen to people profess oppression under the guise of protection.
I can provide numerous sources showing why guns don't solve problems. You didn't back up shit.
Calling a Marxist a fascist is certainly one of the takes of all time.
Apparently your reading comprehension is about zero. I could give a shit about what Marx said does not mean he is fascist, that is you kiddo.
Let's just pretend that you have a point. If guns solve our problems why in a country with more guns than people do we have oppression at all? Oh wait, guns are the oppressive force.
If guns solved fascism there would be no fascism, instead the entire world is armed and fascist as hell. And now we are saying we need more guns to even it up!? You have got to be fucking kidding.
Apparently you forgot about the second world war, where a shitload of guns and bombs (millions of which were wielded by supporters of Marx's ideology) literally stopped fascists. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with a dumbass lib that doesn't understand the difference between leftism and fascism, but it certainly has been entertaining watching you get downvoted to shit in this thread.
Wow, just wow. Clearly you have no grasp on actual history. The fascists were never defeated in WWII as the US has always been the biggest and most powerful fascist nation.
The Nazi modeled their final solution on the Native American Genocide. Ford and other industrialists helped bankroll the Nazi Empire. IBM developed the numbering system for Jews and then figured out how many Jews could be killed each day so there was not a backup of trains leading to the death camps.
Edit: I will take every down vote from gun apologists that are desperately trying to get more people killed. If you think popularity is an indication of correctness I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Sure, all of that stuff about the US is true, and it is a fascist nation, except when we decided there were bigger, more important fascists to deal with. Doesn't change the fact that you're still a dumbass lib that doesn't know shit about leftism. I could sit here and troll your ass all day.
Wish I could see the down votes for them, I only see favorites.
You couldn't troll a kindergartener. You are an ignorant campist.
You keep replying though, seem pretty mad too.
Damn straight I am mad about idiots trying to push guns. I have lost several people to gun violence in my life. You are just a self admitted shit troll.
Well, sorry about that, but the proletariat should be armed.
Right now? Neither.