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Personal devices are personal.
Nowhere in the civilized world are they allowed to do this.
America is a pro-business country.
They can fire you for any reason, like if they hate you're gay. They don't SAY that. They wishy washy it with "not a cultural fit". Or throw you into difficult situations so they can fire you with "unable to complete tasks".
I have Europeans who joined my company surprised at how little protection they get.
right to work state here. they can fire me because they don't like my haircut.
Union worker here. They can't fire me for shit unless I really fuck up
When I worked at UPS, we weren't allowed to have beards and our hair couldn't be long enough to touch our ears. Literally fireable offenses.
They don't even have to give a reason. The only reason they'll try to justify it is to prevent the employee from getting unemployment benefits.
yeah they are. if they pay your phone bill.
Then its not your device and you should not be doing anything personal.on it.
Then it's not a personal device
If they’re paying your bill, buy another phone that’s “work only”. Although you shouldn’t have to buy the second phone either, well, here we are.
i mean, i'd probably just dual sim and pocket the money or something
It's my understanding that companies (in some countries, at least) can demand access to personal data on company phones?
Still no in any civilized society.
it's literally a contractual provision. are contracts not allowed in societies? or civilization?
Correct, some contracts cannot be done. Depending on the specifics, the illegal parts of the contract are unenforceable, or the entire thing is null and void. Employers often hate this, because it limits the exploitation they can enact upon employees.