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[–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 8 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

You do realise that "not being afraid of the police" is actually the norm in most developed democracies, right?

The state of the US police force is not some kind of act of God that nothing can be done about. You're just all too goddamned lazy and selfish to fix it (see also: healthcare, education, school shootings, ...)

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago

You do realise that "not being afraid of the police" is actually the norm in most developed democracies, right?

For non-minorities, sure.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You do realise that “not being afraid of the police” is actually the norm in most developed democracies, right?

You do realize that perception doesn't match reality, right?

People not being afraid of police, doesn't mean they shouldn't be. Just that they haven't had a personal reaction yet...

Which is why no one will name one of these mythical places where police are helpful and not a danger.

Because if you did, anyone could explain what you're not noticing.

On some level, people realize that, or someone would have given one of the "many developed democracies" as an example.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Checking in from Norway. Can confirm that neither myself nor anyone I know has ever expressed that they're afraid of the police, or that they have reason to be. People I know include a fair number of people with minority backgrounds, criminal records, or both, so this isn't a statistic that comes from never interacting with the cops.

Sure, cops here can make mistakes, and sure, there are probably some people that shouldn't be cops who are. However, by and large, it typically becomes a national media case if someone is injured by the police. Excessive use of force seems to be very uncommon, and in the few cases I'm aware of where it's happened, the cops involved have been charged and sentenced for it.

It may seem alien to you, but when you build a well educated police force from people that actually want to help their communities, what you get is a police force that most people feel they can trust. When you follow up with clear corrections when some cop does something wrong, you end up with a system that most people feel they can trust.

Relevant link: The average Norwegian rates their trust for the police at about 7.5 / 10, which is the highest of any public institutions here (slightly above courts at 7/10, and a bit ahead of the parlament at about 6.7 / 10).

Edit: Some more details from the link above: Most European countries (Poland, Slovenia and Czechia excluded) rated their trust for the police above 6/10 in 2014, so this isn't some uniquely Norwegian thing. All the European countries investigated have in common that the police are rated highest out of the public institutions.

[–] welfare_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

There's plenty of people in Norway who are afraid of the police, especially minorities. We have discrimination going on just like everywhere else, it just doesn't reach the national news most of the time. The officer who killed Eugene Ejike Obiora not only got away scot-free, he's now the chief of operations for the local police force and continues to harass local minorities.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, I live in Canada, and while the cops do some fucked up shit, it's not nearly to the level as US cops.

I never see a cop and feel scared for myself or anybody around me. At most, I feel worried that there's something happening.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I live in Canada, and while the cops do some fucked up shit, it’s not nearly to the level as US cops.

I never see a cop and feel scared for myself or anybody around me.

That is very naive. CDN cops are assholes.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

What are you trying to convince me to be scared of with that article?

[–] MooseWinooski@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

You might wanna read up on the history of policing in Canada. Our police force is systematically corrupt and deeply racist. Our mounties were created from the men who did the red river massacre of indigenous peoples and to this day, cops across the country are giving "starlight tours" and murdering civilians with impunity.

Here is a good place to start educating yourself, since our news does a terrible job of holding cops to account in our country. https://www.canadaland.com/shows/commons-the-police/

[–] MooseWinooski@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago

Let me guess: you're not afraid of the police and also white.