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You can visit a city like Helsinki: and yet, there's barely any homeless people around (of course, homeless people still exist) while comparing that to Los Angeles, it's a fucking joke. It's because they prioritize housing for everyone indifferent to their circumstances (even those addicted to drugs or with mental health issues are also sheltered) as they recognize that housing is a human right.

The housing is managed by the state, while Finns pay A TON in taxes at least it's heading to cover expenses for getting people off the streets. It's because the Finnish government is on board with putting them into housing while American government demonizes their existence as a whole not even considering them as human beings at all, like WTF is wrong with their mindset?

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 23 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Have you been to Finland?

6 months of the year, homeless people would freeze to death in short order if they were left outside.

Finland has homeless people, just not on the street.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

6 months of the year, homeless people would freeze to death

True, but that does surprisingly little to prevent homelessness.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 9 points 19 hours ago

True, but that does surprisingly little to prevent homelessness.

Yes, but it does a LOT to keep people experiencing homelessness of the streets and in shelter. In US cities that have harsh winters, they also have many fewer homeless folks visible on the streets than you'd find in California or Texas, where people can pretty much live outside in perpetuity

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

Finland winter ranges from 23F to -4F

Similar to Northern US states.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

My immediate thought too. We have homeless people here in Norway too. Homeless does not mean without housing or shelter.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying homeless people have, um, homes?

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Being in a shelter hardly qualifies as having a home. Unless you like shelters maybe...

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world -3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

If you have a room in a shelter every day, you're not homeless. It's not nice, but it's not homeless.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago

If you don't have a lease in your name, you're homeless.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

"not nice" is doing some competition level heavy lifting. Getting barely enough food, just that little bit of hygiene, all your things in one bag, surrounded by helpless or crazy people and desperation so great you are constantly paranoid you might get abused or robbed. All of the safety and security you want a home for is hardly available in a homeless shelter.

It's like saying being in prison is also living. Sure, on a technicality. But in real life no one would agree - prison makes people age faster for all the wrong reasons.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Same is true for much of Canada yet we can't seem to shelter them either. It isn't just the weather, the finnish government is far more compassionate towards homeless people than any other government I know of.