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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

I think part of the issue is that a lot of people who are aware of this know that it's been happening for a lot longer than since Trump's first election, and it's not specifically a right wing takeover. It's an overall consolidation of power into the hands of an ultra-wealthy few, and right wing is currently the most advantageous position for them to take.

This particular video is from 2018, a year into Trump's first term, and it shows a large amount of local news stations that were believed to be spread across the political spectrum (at least for US run stations) all reciting the same exact script.

But the movements of Rupert Murdoch, or the Sinclair Media group, or iHeartRadio, or any of the many number of conglomerates didn't just crop up overnight purely under right wing situations to support right wing movement.

Unless you really think Trump's first election was some 5D chess thing, he was catching flak from all sides. Before that, the news media gave incredibly kind coverage to Obama's involvement in the Middle East, his use of drones, his moves to further the rights granted to the US government and intelligence agencies through the Patriot act (started under Dubya, but expanded under Obama), the construction of illegal immigration centers during his tenure... the list goes on for him like it does for most Presidents.

The screws have been tighening for decades, this isn't something shockingly new to present day, we're just approaching critical mass.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

It's not a right-wing takeover, and it's not a takeover by the ultra wealthy. It's more complicated than that.

The NY Times is still the crown jewel of news, and it isn't owned by a right-winger or an oligarch. It's a publicly traded company traded on the NYSE. The CEO is a multi-millionaire, but definitely no oligarch. USA Today is also publicly traded. Same with Comcast which owns NBC universal which owns NBC which runs NBC news.

Most of these publicly owned companies have a few rich shareholders, but they have so few shares they can't exert much control. For example, the CEO of Comcast, Brian L. Roberts does own more than $1b worth of Comcast stock, but Comcast has a market cap of more than $100b, so Roberts owns less than 1% of the company. If you actually look at who owns most of these big public companies it's always going to be Vanguard, Blackrock, State Street, etc. who all own it on behalf of their investors. Those companies are basically hands off with their ownership, because they basically own it as part of an index fund, so it's not really them who owns it. But, they do want their investments to keep making money.

Then there's The Associated Press, which is a not-for-profit cooperative owned by its member newspapers and broadcasters. Reuters is officially a British news agency, owned by a Canadian publicly traded company Thomson Reuters. It's one of the unusual ones because although it's publicly traded, the majority of its shares belong to The Woodbridge Company which is owned by the Canadian/British Thomson family. And there's NPR, PRI, APM, PBS, etc. which are publicly owned, but relatively small. And then there are the international news orgs that have penetration in the US: BBC, the Guardian, etc.

The real problem is that news in the US has always been owned by for-profit companies. This is unlike most of the world where there are for-profit companies, but one of the major players in news is a state-owned company: ABC in Australia, BBC in Britain, CBC in Canada, DW in Deutschland, ERR in Estonia, France Télévisions in France, etc.

When the world went online, and online advertising was captured by the Google / Facebook duopoly and classifieds were captured by Craigslist, it became really hard for news organizations to make money. The ones that suffered most were the ones that used to be newspapers. TV networks had to adjust but not as much. The ones that were owned by oligarchs didn't have to change because their goal was never about making a profit for the oligarch. But, the ones that were in it as businesses had to scramble because the way they made money had to change.

IMO, where we are now is that we have oligarch-owned media which is mostly right-wing -- but "pro-business right wing" not "evangelical right-wing". Then there's the for-profit media which is mostly sensationalist news, panel discussions, and other stuff that can be done cheaply. The days when reporters could do month-long investigations are mostly gone. Same with sending a reporter to the city's meetings. There are a few remaining dedicated news orgs that can afford to fund in-depth reporting, funded by people playing Wordle or similar wierdness.

The dial on the "yellowness" of the news has been turned up, and oligarchs have more influence than they used to. But, it's not as simple to say that it's all right wing, or all oligarch owned. It's more that journalism as a profession has taken a major hit and everything that used to compete with reliable, honest journalism has grown.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There was an episode of West Wing where CJ was really worried about (it was obviously Sinclair media) the consolidation of news media especially. I think that episode was in 2003 or 2004. It's not a huge problem until it is. But, I contend it has been a right wing plan. Yes, the oligarchs have been the ones doing the buying but the plan to consolidate all media has been a major plan by the Christian right since at least the 80's. They've been the ones pushing hard for it. And while it can benefit the oligarchs it primarily benefits fascism and the right.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago

if you think it only started with right wing christians in the 80s and hadn't been going on since the end of the seccond world war, the invention of the intelligence agencies and the sudden realisation that governments can move exorbitant quantities of money into companies that dont exist, to pay for experiments on the population in secret

'Because all those post-nazism scientists have a lot of ideas on how to get those damn commies to spill the beans and we can't have them go work for someone else, how else are we going to make the drug that makes you trip so much balls your arms and legs fall off? (yes. that's a real thing. Bromo-DragonFLY)

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago

The second I saw that you said news stations after that link I knew it was gonna be the "This is extremely dangerous to our democracy"

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

Consolidation from what? A time when television news studios were owned by your average mom and pop who mortgaged their house for a chance at their dream lifestyle?

Media has always been owned by the oligarchs. For literally centuries it's been owned by the oligarchs. The Opium Wars, the Indian Wars, every war ever has been supported by the news outlets owned by the war-profiting oligarchs.

The consolidation was just an optimization, both of operationalizing ideology and of extracting profit.

But there was never a time before which media was actually competitive and balanced and could guide someone towards an accurate understanding of the world. The white supremacist oligarchs have literally always controlled the media, the narrative, and the propaganda.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Unless you really think Trump’s first election was some 5D chess thing, he was catching flak from all sides.

That's at least 3D chess. Bad news are good news. The media made him popular.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Yep, there are some interesting connections to how advertising got started and got perfected into that repetition based system that reinforces beliefs by familiarization. The consolidation is just centralization of that process.

I also don't think the consolidation is the root cause, it's a tool.