Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.
Right, the Gaza Genocide isn't US Politics... Those aren't US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.
What a joke.
I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.
For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206
The second article about US media's complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide... do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919
The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics?!?!?!?!!!!!???
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon
The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don't even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza
The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.
Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.
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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)
But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.
It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.
- Mehdi Hasan
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza
edit personal DM from goat taunting me for the other thread being locked before I could fully explain myself and get a solid answer from Lemmy World.
Words like those are vanishingly cheap.
You wanted proof, I bring the receipts. 😉
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/biden-disparages-netanyahu-private-hasnt-changed-us-policy-israel-rcna138282
"Biden has said he is trying to get Israel to agree to a cease-fire, but Netanyahu is “giving him hell” and is impossible to deal with"
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/politics/biden-netanyahu-israel-gaza
"In private, Biden has been more willing to offer unvarnished thoughts on Netanyahu, including his deep irritation that the Israeli prime minister has not followed through on American recommendations to de-escalate military tactics in Gaza."
https://apnews.com/article/biden-netanyahu-hot-mic-gaza-885b97a75d15d15ae7f7a47d0125c918
"Biden then responds using Netanyahu’s nickname, saying, “I told him, Bibi, and don’t repeat this, but you and I are going to have a ‘come to Jesus’ meeting.”"
And my personal favorite:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-sparred-netanyahu-gaza-israel-strategy_n_67059569e4b09945d6b875f5
“Bibi, what the fuck?” Biden yelled after the attack, according to Woodward. “You know the perception of Israel around the world increasingly is that you’re a rogue state, a rogue actor.”
Do you think this demonstrates a meaningful resistance to Netanyahu? These are all words, heard second hand, conveyed in private. They are not actions.
Failing to take action does not equal Biden endorsing the actions.
It's absolutely clear Biden endorsed NONE of this and at the same time it's equally clear that Netanyahu does not give a single solitary fuck what the US says and is going to keep on killing people.
Then why did all these Biden officials feel the need to drive their career into a ditch by resigning because of how they felt about Biden's response to the Palestinian Genocide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._officials_who_resigned_over_Biden%27s_support_for_Israel_in_the_Gaza_war
Because while Biden expressed his views privately, he refused a public break with Israel, something that would have doomed his campaign as well as Harris's campaign had she run with it.
Trump would have rolled his frequent line of "I'm the best thing that ever happened to Israel" and nothing Biden or Harris could say would counter that.
If you want to see what happens when US Politicians oppose Israel, you don't have to look any further than the Illinois primaries last Tuesday:
https://www.axios.com/2026/03/18/aipac-illinois-primary-biss-abughazaleh-bean
What happened when the mayor at the center of the second largest concentration of Jews on earth ran withput AIPAC money.
https://www.jewishtimes.com/what-zohran-mamdani-has-actually-said-about-jews-and-israel/
"During the long mayoral primary campaign, Mamdani repeatedly said that Israel has a right to exist. But he usually qualifies that statement by adding that Israel is flouting its responsibilities under international law, based on its treatment of Palestinians.
He has also been asked if Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. As he stated at a town hall in May with the UJA-Federation of New York, co-moderated by the New York Jewish Week’s Lisa Keys: It should exist “with equal rights for all.”"
Biden -
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/bidens-stance-palestinian-israeli-conflict-call-humanitarian-aid-and-two-state-solution
"President Biden's reiteration that the only way forward to maintain Israel's security is through the two-state solution is consistent with the administration's approach from day one."
I don't understand the point you are making at all here, but I will point out that Zohran specifically didn't state that the solution needed to be a two state solution, something Biden could never let go of as a concept even after it had outlived its reality or possibility. There needs to be one state with rights for all, this Genocide has gone far too far to have some kind of state within a state situation that encodifies the conditions of inequality into international politics. It is one damn country, work it out without doing a Genocide on Palestinians.
The point is, when it comes to Biden's traditional definition of "Zionist" - "Israel has a right to exist" - both Mamdani and Biden are Zionists. 😉
Do you honestly believe you just "gotcha'd" me?
This is pathetic.
Sweetie, you gotcha'd yourself. LOL.
Why don't you unlock the thread on Lemmy.World and instead you come here to try to get your last word in? You are 40 something years old? You act like you are 15.
What thread? I'm not restoring and unlocking your off-topic posts.
The one you had that was actually on topic for Politics is still live:
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42580966
And yet somehow he couldn't tell it was a genocide he was selling weapons for.
Again, Biden comes from the sphere where Israel are the down-trodden good guys. That perspective is decades out of date, but Biden is just that old.
I'd argue it hasn't been remotely true since the '67 war? Maybe the '72 Olympics Hostage Crisis?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
The same sphere you live in.
"I'd argue it hasn't been remotely true since the '67 war? Maybe the '72 Olympics Hostage Crisis?"
Reading comprehension FTW!
I'm not seeing how "biden didn't say 'look at me I'm supporting genocide' so he must not support genocide!" is that much less absurd.