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I'd trade my car repair skill for house repair, and my musical ability for math ability. Both of those are far more useful in life. Maybe also trade my computer ability for welding or woodworking.

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like you've just not found the right way to learn that works for you, tbh

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh you can’t ignore the effect talent has on skill development. Their brain can literally be wired in a way that something like rhythm can be difficult to master whereas someone else can pick it up easily. Some of these things you’re just born with and can never change.

The same applies to high level math and art

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s more of a multiplier. Regardless of practice someone without talent will never catch a talented and dedicated person.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh, I guess that explains all those bands of musicians where none of them had any talent and then went on to have zero success, such as AC/DC, Slayer and Metallica

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Mainstream musical success is not a metric of musical skill. However if you look at any violin soloist, they have to be talented.

Also I’d also argue many of those band members do have talent.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat as him. I have zero talent or understanding if music and art

Math comes very easily and naturally to me. Even advanced calculus felt east to learn

I couldn't sing a single song from memory. Not in a, "I'm bad at singing" way. Literally I don't remember a single song. I have memorized songs before, but it's quick to forget them, because it's just that to me - memorization

With practice and effort I can memorize songs and generally replicate patterns to make music, but that's it. It isn't really learning music

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

It literally is.

That's all learning music is, remembering more and more patterns, and then fucking around to see if you can combine them in interesting ways.

You all sound like you've just started, hit a wall and then went "this must be all there is! Woe is me!" instead of just climbing over the wall