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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I mixed up the location of the foxconn factory fair catch. Doesn’t change the core point though.

I mean, it doesn't change my point, that being corporations exploit workers in China because China is capitalist in all ways that matter.
It changes the lie you tried to tell me, that it was "Capitialst occupied" Tiawan, and that the glorious CCP would never allow such atrocity, which is clearly not true.

That’s lower than the US (15.6), Canada (9.4), Australia (13.1), UK (9.5), Japan (14.7), South Korea (20.6) and much of mainland Europe.

Those other countries also don't have workers throwing themselves off of buildings because their jobs crush their will to live, but I guess that's besides the point.

Yes, working conditions were harsh during the early offshoring boom, that was the brutal calculus of catching up.

"Were harsh." Lol ok. Hey look at this video of these Chinese workers sitting inside of a hydraulic press, it totally doesn't show harsh working conditions.

On the system itself: China is in the socialist transitional period blah blah blah

Hence, "China is capitalist in all ways that matter."

Harvard’s Ash Center has tracked Chinese public opinion since 2003 and consistently finds approval of the central government above 90%.

If you really believe this then I have a bridge, two furry trout farms, and a wooden nickle factory to sell you.

You can critique labor issues without falling back on orientalist tropes that flatten 1.4 billion people into a caricature.

Me stating the fact that the government of China allows corporations to exploit it's population is not an "orientalist trope."
You could also stop defending a country of oligarchs which doesn't care about human rights and clearly exploits it's population for the benefit of global corporations,

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You've got a video clip and a worldview that fits on a bumper sticker, congrats. You don't actually care about Chinese workers; you just need us to be miserable props in your moral drama so you can feel superior. When reality doesn't match the trope, you double down instead of asking questions. Best of luck to you, I hope you overcome your orientalism.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You’ve got a video clip and a worldview that fits on a bumper sticker, congrats.

The word you're looking for is "proof." I have proof that China exploits it's workers, becuase China is capitalist in all ways that matter.

I like how you totally ignored the rest of the comment, probably because you don't have a leg to stand on.

You don’t actually care about Chinese workers; you just need us to be miserable props in your moral drama so you can feel superior

I care about them enough to not delude myself into thinking a government that doesn't give a shit about them is somehow better because it's "socialist" on paper.

Best of luck to you, I hope you overcome your orientalism.

As an Asian man (my father is Fillipino,) I forgive you your hipster racisim, because I know it's borne out of ignorance. Secondly, it's not "oritentalism" to tell the truth about an oppresive government.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

🫡 Thank you for educating me about my government (that has 95+% support among the people even according to western institutes like Harvard). You a half Filipino American clearly understand it and it's nuances better than me despite not being able to engage with any of the analysis I put forth. It is so gracious of you to shoulder the white man's burden on their behalf. Again I salute you 🫡

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

FYI, as a post ages, there are diminishing returns to engaging, because the audience quickly dwindles. Somehow @Cowbee@lemmy.ml keeps going and never burns out—maybe he was bit by a radioactive debatebro—but most mortals need to pick their battles more strategically.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't mind engaging even without the audience if someone is directly replying to me. Best case it's an interesting conversation worst case I get to laugh at the idiocy of your average bigot.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

The radioactive debatebro is my past reddit self... Trying to recover from that, haha.