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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social -5 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity who do you think controls the state in China?

Not the workers.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago

The workers disagree with you

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 8 points 23 hours ago

So you're a troll? You are just saying things, you haven't investigated at all?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago

Well if you think that it's capitalism you think the primary contradiction in china is between the bourgeosie and the proletariat. Which of these control the state?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Respond the other questions, give us data, sources, speak with substance if you have any, unless you're just repeating propaganda, and you wouldn't do that, right?

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Not OC, but I do think its impossible that the goverment not made of worker class representstives can be socialistic (or where worker class is underrepresented).

Just by the simple fact they do not represent the wast masses, they will ultimately be disconnected from workers and/or serve their own petty bourgeoisie interests.

Agreed?

Even ancient Greeks knew that when the representatives in democracy come from rich families they always serve their families first (see sortition, a practice they used to offset that).

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

We've been through this before, so I'm not sure why you're repeating this misunderstanding. Administration is not a class, just like "intellectual" is not a class. In socialist states, the working classes do control the state, and this is expressed by the working classes being the primary beneficiaries of social labor. The Greeks had an entirely different mode of production and distribution, so not sure why you bring them up.