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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Selfish, but much safer legally speaking

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yep, in my country it’s illegal to provide copyrighted material, but it’s legal to download for personal use. Sorry.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's what VPNs are there for! Ze German setup: gluetun and qbittorrent via docker, qbittorrent only going over gluetuns network.

This way we can return what we take tenfold and still come out on top!

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can also bind qbittorrent to the specific wan interface created by the vpn so it won't seed or download if the vpn is off

It doesn't see the interface if qbit is running in a docker container. That's what gluetun is for.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Once you've had a legal letter due to an accident and over eager lawyers with easily costs beginning at several thousands you might change your opinion.

And yes, I had that. For 3 hashes of 3 files of a TV series.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it doesn't. Because it's not an opinion but a description on how to not get into the situation you've described - i.e. about personal security.

What I've described prevents a link between you and your online actions - that's the whole point. It's the defense against surveillance and can be applied on situations with way higher risk than just a fine.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay, I think we're on the same side here, I was just at a technicality.

We need to fix using technical avoidance and fix the law and surveillance.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah! It's sad that users have to have a technical education to use the Internet if laws and what at least I perceive as "right" fundamentally differ.

At least for the moment it's only copy right for me personally - there are countries and laws where this need is way more fundamental :(

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As long as the VPN isn't a front for residential proxies and routing bot traffic over your endpoint, doing god knows what. If they've been heavily advertised at some point, they most likely are.

[–] twack@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What sketchy ass VPN's have you been using?

Get something from a well known provider like Proton, iVPN, or Mullvad.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Proton and Mullvad are probably fine yeah. Nord, Surfshark and Express are definitely very sus though, Nord even has known ties to Oxylabs.

Torrenting for personal use is legal where I live so I don't have to use any, I'm just saying be mindful if you do.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"most of them are (if advertised heavily)" is quite a claim without data to back it up.

At least for the one I tested none of them sent additional traffic over my connection. That's just one data point and I only looked to ones with port forwarding but still far away from your claim.

There are a shitload of VPN tests out there and testing id your connection gets used by third parties for not traffic is even possible for a layperson.

Please stop fear mongering without remedies or specifics.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, "thing I really want, but provided for free" combined with "thing we really want you to use, for free" -

We should maybe put fear mongering directly on that, I think. Free things, that cost real money to provide, that cost no money to use - we should maybe fear monger a little.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's way more specific and can get behind - I don't even test any "free" VPNs.

I didn't intend to imply that VPNs are free.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good chance I'm just annoyed and arguing with the wrong person, probably even about the wrong thing lol.

My mistake. I appreciate you.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago

I use a docker image that sets up Transmission+open VPN+kill switch. But I also Mostly download from private trackers anyway.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just fyi you cannot really stop seeding completely, torrents work in tiny chunks and the moment you have one of them you can provide it to others.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Then don't use BitTorrent.

Hit and Run is just bad behavior.