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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you got a solution? Or are we just going to flood them with more 'man bad' buzzwords tonkeep pushing them away? These people are going to get us killed and there is no solution.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a man I can tell you the solution sure as shit isn't to abort any male fetuses that's for fucken sure. If I was younger I'd probably call you an SJW but frankly speaking I think you're just an idiot.

As for actual solutions. Relatively simple, improve material conditions and put a bullet into freaks like Rogan, Carlson, and Peterson. The fact of the matter is that this has happened in the past, it happened during at least the French revolution and during the rise of fascism in the 1920s and 1930s. The solution to both at least in the pre-war period is to improve economic and material conditions, fascism got gutted here in the states due to the new deal and Napoleon granted enough stability and improvements to snub a lot of problems.

Is it a satisfying answer? Fuck no. But sadly most people don't have an all encompassing hatred for cultists and incompetents that broke me out of the gamergate sphere. Turns out my hatred for Trump is genetic or at least so engraved into my person hood so as to have no definitive difference.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, fine. I calmed down, but the fact is these people exist because they are the men that both sides seem to talk about the most. We cannot beat them by focusing so much on them. And your solution is something I doubt will ever happen.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bread and circuses wasn't just a way for the Romans to keep their population docile, it was how they prevented the empire from collapsing in on itself centuries before the fall of the Western half of Rome. Point is that improved material conditions would help to weaken this movement, probably won't kill it since plenty of it is based in cults like Mormonism and modern Evangelical Christianity but it could stimmy the flow.

But yeah in many ways the cat is out of the bag and we are firmly in damage control now. I also do agree that focusing on those already within such groups is pretty much worthless, best place to start is to talk to kin, kith, and clan about it and try to prevent it from happening in the first place. Mind you this won't stop it from happening but you may be able to redirect their rage towards the politicians and rich bastards who have created our modern material conditions through their greed.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but it feels like we have to work against our own side for that to happen. Because at best a liberal man can do is be 'one of the good ones' and that shit is pretty is isoating when all gender discussion is focused on the worst of men.

Boys are effectively told they can only be monsters by both sides. Not a day goes by there is another study about how awful men are. Or some influencer tells them it's okay to be a monster.

And that is it. No other message.

And I keep hearing about the need of a 'liberal Joe Rogan'. But I can think of a few people who might fit that mold, but no one actually wants to talk about them. But we sure give Tate a lot of attention.