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If it's strategically best for the Iranians to kill troops (and I don't know but I would assume it is, at least in the case of very highly trained ones), then that's one thing, but they shouldn't be contorting their approach based on moralizing nonsense that won't actually bring murdered children back to life. They should do whatever is best for defeating the US and Israeli invaders, and they are betraying the people of Iran if they are kneecapping their operation for the sake of an imaginary moral victory at the expense of a real victory. Do you want sad Americans or do you want American and Israeli bombs to stop sooner? Do you think someone who lost their daughter in the bombing of the Shajarah Tayyebeh girls' school would take the deal of sad Americans in exchange for more of their family dying, or do they instead want their family to be safe, the invaders gone, and any feelings of the invaders are secondary?
Again, I will stress that I'm not arguing against the killing of American troops by Iran, I don't really have information to say what approach is best but if killing them is for the best than that's what Iran should do, just that judgements should be made on the basis of efficacy.
Then what precisely are you doing with this comment? /genuinely asking
I was not aware that killing enemy soldiers in war is "contorting one's approach." /genuinely sarcastic but also confused, see the original question.
As for the rest, America's never bombed my family so I can't speak for Iranis. But: idk if you actually love anyone, but I actually do want blood in recompense for the atrocities which AmeriKKKa has inflicted upon my loved ones and upon me. NOTHING can undo the harms of the past, nothing can bring back the dead, nothing can untorture the tortured, nothing can heal the mutilated. So at the very least, the perpetrators should not get to go on to live charmed lives of luxury and joy; their continued happiness and their lives are salt in the wound; their suffering and their deaths are at least a bitter shred of solace, grim satisfaction that at least those bastards didn't completely get away with it. You may be surprised how many people who've been brutalized by the empire want -- no, need -- revenge in order to move on and perform some semblance of rebuilding.
Real victory is when people kill your family and you don't kill theirs back, I guess
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When the fuck did "morality" become a dirty word on the supposed Left anyway? I've been seeing more criticisms of having a sense of right and wrong and justice and fairness around here lately which seems incredibly ass-backwards.
Settler leftists who have put their heads so far up their asses with "scientific socialism" that they actually believe in pure objective reality, deride morals as idealist and thus demeaning, and couch every argument in terms of some self-superior "rationality" that barely masks how much personal emotional projection is going into propping up their narrow world-view and rejecting anything that threatens their confirmation bias.
The kind of people who are supposedly interested in mass organization, but who look down on the actual masses as less rational, less intelligent, less pure, superstitious and backwards compared to their oh-so-educated secular European ideal.
The most annoying part is they'll pick a single sentence out of something you've said to argue an entire imaginary point on that is just being materialist according to them, but somehow always results in picking fights with marginalized people while asserting that it can't possibly be interpreted as a defense of the oppressor, because they never specifically said they support the oppressors. It's obviously a coincidence that they spend so much time randomly talking down to "comrades."
I was thinking about the use of "scientific socialism" and "objective reality": I think there is pretty clearly such a thing as reality, and many aspects of reality are not subjective. Like you can't say "in my opinion the people Israel/America just blew up are actually still alive" and be taken seriously; Reality contradicts that opinion.
But, people's feelings are very much a part of that objective reality. The grief and torment people feel, the void in their lives where the people who were taken from them should have been, those are real and that pain matters immensely. That pain destroys lives. That pain gives people incurable PTSD. That pain tortures people. That pain drives people to suicide. That pain poisons the rest of their lives. To argue that it is irrational to take people's feelings into account is bad methodology at best, evil at worst.