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Thanks for the quick and thoughtful reply, I appreciate it! I'm interested in discussing this further, I'll reply inline, if I don't mention something you may assume that I agree with you or that I'm happy to concede the point for the sake of discussion

If you can’t get what you want without an animal, then definitionally you need to exploit the animal to get what you want.

I disagree with that - for example, I think you'd agree that birdwatching isn't exploitative, right? For me, exploitation is when you put your own needs/wants before the needs/wants of an animal. Just simply gaining some benefit from an interaction with an animal isn't necessarily exploitative - though it certainly can be, and often is.

To your broader point, it sounds to me like you're kind of scared of yourself, like you don't trust your own abilities to discern right from wrong. I completely understand that perspective, because I have issues with feeling that way about myself sometimes too.

Your points about emotion clouding our judgment and not necessarily always putting the interests of the animal before our own is well made, but it kind of assumes that the staff at the animal shelter would be somehow more resistant to this issue. It's like you're offloading the ethical burden of having to make decisions for an animal's wellbeing to someone else and assuming that they'll handle it better than you will - an assumption which, frankly, is probably wrong.

I get the vibe that you want to live as closely aligned with your values as possible, which results in a kind of pathological avoidance of responsibility - we can't get it wrong/make a mistake if we just choose not to take any action.

But the reality is that, as vegans, we're far better than average at being able to provide a loving, caring home for animals than most. Shelters have limited space, staffing and resources, and while I agree from a utilitarian perspective that the money you'd spend on housing one animal would do more good if it was allocated to shelters, it doesn't make the selfish choice inherently exploitative, I don't think.

Anyways, not criticising you at all, I trust you know what's best for you, but I'm still very skeptical that acting as a guardian for an animal is inherently non-vegan.