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Humans are not mice.
Has any human dude out there ever asked a woman, which hurts more, a self drilled dental abscess, or childbirth?
I've met and spoke to a good lady friend that's experienced both, and she said that self dental work hurts more than childbirth.
I'm only a dude, but I've actually partly dremeled out one of my teeth before, no anesthetic, to drain an abscess that wasn't about to drain itself. She said she had to do similar, and that hurts more than childbirth.
So, did this study ever extend their study beyond mice and actually ask humans about their pains?
That is patently insane, you can not just write that without mentioning anything about what circumstances could possibly have led to you being in a position where you had access to a drill but had no option but to operate it yourself.
Were you the last survivor on a research station on Antarctica in the middle of winter where the entire crew died of tooth abscesses leaving you the last man standing and help wouldn't be able to arrive for months?
I'm struggling to come up with any other scenario where this could possibly happen.
I did it myself. I've been lighthearted about my comments, but if you really wanna know all the details, well it fucking hurt like hell!
But it drained the abscess and gave me time to visit a dentist.
Cost? ~$500, Bank? ~$0, Time, ~8months
That really doesn't explain anything about why you didn't have the dentist (or even pretty much anyone else) do it for you instead.
8 months, no money, duh.
Okay but is no one going to take a moment to ask about this person and someone he knows both doing self drilled dental work though? Is this some "yeah dental care in the US sucks even more than you think" thing or??
Doesn’t the body release a bunch of hormones during childbirth to sort of act as pain modulators and it kinda makes the mother’s memory of it less intense than it actually was? I remember reading something about it being an evolutionary thing so the mother isn’t deterred from getting pregnant again.
Exactly this. Your brain gets absolutely blasted with a bunch of chemicals during childbirth and your memory of it becomes very hazy, especially the pain parts. This happens with or without pain management.
What is anecdotal evidence?
What, that humans are not mice? I don't think I need evidence for that.
I can communicate with humans directly though, and have had an in-depth discussion with my long time friend J about this very subject.
She had went through both, and confirms that non-anesthesia self tooth drilling hurts more than childbirth.
Now as far as the mouse study, they studied their paws, not the more sensitive areas such as teeth and genitals...
Anyways, for every dozen of cures for mice they find, I still haven't heard any of them approved and applied to humans.
So, once again, humans are not mice.
Not disagreeing about mice and humans, very disingenuous to reply like this. You don't even provide full information in the story, did she have any pain medicine or procedures to minimize the pain, was the baby on time, did she dilate correctly, what was the baby to mother mass ratio... lots of unaccounted variables. I'll counter your story with my aunt pulled her tooth out with pliers waaaay too early with no anesthesia and said it was nothing compared to her first child.
It is an interesting discussion that me and my lady friend had years ago, and you bring up many valid points. I haven't spoken with her in a few years, we've lost contact, but she was open enough with me about her experiences that I'll try to ask her more details as such when/if I ever encounter her again.