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I thought (probably wrong, not a historian) that it was disease that spread faster than the Europeans that brought it? As in, first contact happened, and then basically the continent died before any real settlement action could begin because of the diseases first contact brought?
European disease definitely spread faster than the Europeans themselves did, it's just not certain what the exact chain of events was. It's definitely not an area I'm extremely well-read in, but I know there's speculation that the collapse of complex urban civilizations in what-is-now the USA and Canada may have started before Euro disease started rampaging through, for a variety of factors.
Undoubtedly, though, the massive disease death tolls put some sturdy nails in the coffin.
I didn't know this. I have read up on pre contact NA, but I always assumed the collapse was the direct result of European contact. I wonder if we'll ever figure out why it happened
Like I said, 'may' and 'speculation.' To my knowledge there's not a strong consensus on the chain of events currently. European disease being the primary cause is still very much a mainstream and respected opinion.
There are theories that there were major issues with North American native populations before European contact, including the abandonment of various pueblo settlements in the American southwest and collapse of civilization in the Mississippi River Basin.
So you had the equivalent of the Bronze Age collapse occurring in most of North America, then sea peoples come from Europe with very virulent diseases and a desire to take over the land.
That's wild, I did not know this. Maybe bronze age collapse is the great filter! Lol