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'Ukrainians made it through,' Zelensky says on toughest winter of Russia's invasion
(kyivindependent.com)
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For so many years, russians have been portrayed as tough in Hollywood films and video games, but it should have been Ukrainians all along. In the USSR, all but the people at the top were oppressed or restricted in some way, but at least russians were not viewed as second-class (unless they were Jewish, among other things). Meanwhile the people of Ukraine (and those of other Soviet republics) had to deal not only with the Nazis but also with the Soviets, both of whom viewed them as inherently inferior.
Soviets did make a habit of crediting any achievements of any people within the USSR to the generalized "soviet" people, which, by default, meant russians. Not that there weren't smart scientists and resilient warriors that were actually russian (gotta acknowledge the truth), but a lot of positive things people usually associate with Soviets were achieved by what was ethnic minorities at the time.
From what I have understood, Russia has generally stolen a lot of Ukraine’s history and culture and passed it off as theirs. The word Rus refers to the vikings who actually founded Kyiv and whom many Ukrainians descend from. Even their names are Slavic versions of Norse names, which I didn’t know until relatively recently.
Yeah, even recently, Russia has removed or minimized references to Kyivan Rus in school books.
It is absolutely crazy what goes on over there. I am not an expert on the subject, but have seen, heard and read enough to understand how absolutely unhinged that country is right now. Most reasonable Russians who could afford it have left a long time ago and those who are still there have to witness their children’s education being turned into a brainwashing camp that will turn their kids into canon fodder the moment they come of age. It is so fucked, man.
- Skinny Pete
While true, we don't need to be reminded that THAT Italian Job movie exists.
what a bullshit lie, everyone had equal rights under USSR, we even got ukrainian as leader of USSR, ukrainians played major role in innovation and arts. This bullshit should stop, USSR was dissolved due to russian nationalism not formed
As someone who lived in USSR, slow be to adjust your statement.
Everyone was declared to have equal rights, not dissimilar to the constitutions of other countries.
Contrary to those declarations the soviet passports had "nationality" in them.
On top of that, while it was reasonable for everyone to have a common language, it was a common understanding that if one is too progress in life and career, they should adopt russian and, better, become one. Which was actively supported. While I grew up in Ukraine, in school we had Ukrainian language and literature as a foreign language, maybe 10% of what we spent learning russian ones.
So yeah, everyone was equal, as long as they are russian. Every other nationality was at best mocked. Ukrainians are greedy, Georgians are brainless machos, Chukchas are stupid, Jews are sneaky thieves etc.
On top of that, there was systemic discrimination of women which culminated in the joke-proverb "woman, keep your mouth shut, your day is 8th of march".
And of course the equality was topped by the oligarchy. See in a one-party system, people are either party members or not. The country was obviously ruled exclusively by the party members, which not only meant that the non-members had zero representation, it also meant that most members had equally zero representation.
Ironically, in that sense, there was equality since nobody had any rights.
So a small elite has formed, it was mostly replenished via nepotism and those were the "more equal" ones.
The patriotic movements you're mentioning, while they naturally picked the flag after the collapse, had little to do with the said collapse. It crashed because it was resistant to change.
And the soviets were well aware of the "nationalist danger", that why after causing holodomor they settled millions of ethnic russians into the emptied homes in Ukraine. That's why after the second world war (which the soviets don't call that because they actually started it together with the Nazis) they sent hundreds of thousands of Crimean Tatars to Siberia and replaced them with... more ethnically and loyal russians.
So yeah, everyone was declared equal, but only male, russian and well-connected were.
I wont say much on your own experience because I have no way to verify it but most probably you have memories of last days of USSR when it was already broken.
As it comes to holodomor, no it wasnt caused intentionally nor it was targeted towards ukrainians
And no soviets didnt start world war together with nazis, thats another nazi lie
Your argument is like saying that if Candace Owens has power, there's no systemic anti-Black racism in the US.
No my point is the entire point of existence of USSR was anti nationalism and the moment nationalist sentiment got up it collapsed.
I stand with ukraine against russia and all but pretending that ukrainians werent integral part of USSR and were somehow occupied by russians is farce.
You've never heard of the holodomor?
I wrote about holodomor few days ago here; https://lemmy.zip/post/59140748/24664135
Ignore the initial swearing
Thanks for confirming that you're a mindless russian shill.
No shit it was the bread basket. That's why the USSR took all their grain to russia and left the Ukrainians to starve. It was very much targeted at Ukraine.
You accuse people of falling for propaganda, but you're the one out there actively peddling propaganda.
We know who you are.