I wont say much on your own experience because I have no way to verify it but most probably you have memories of last days of USSR when it was already broken.

As it comes to holodomor, no it wasnt caused intentionally nor it was targeted towards ukrainians

And no soviets didnt start world war together with nazis, thats another nazi lie

[–] doo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Lol, so the soviets did not have a pact with Nazis and didn't invade Poland just two weeks after the Nazis?

My friend, I understand your desire to see Soviet Union as some sort of dualistic opponent of the imperialist US (which the latter is), and use that to declare as the good side, but I'm afraid the USSR was just as imperialist and as terrible, just differently.

It was way more like two mafia gangs fighting each other. And the one that won is now finally showing its true colours.

The fundamental approach to equality in the early Soviet Union was via killing all those "not equal". Lenin was very adamant about using extreme violence to "convince" the population. So was Stalin. The following ones were a little less blood thirsty, but simply because their predecessors did a great job killing millions.

Sorry, Soviet Union was a tyrannical oligarchy, as far from socialism as its great opponent the US of A.

By the way, your argument that you don't know but I also cannot know because I was late to the party (pun intended) is... a very naive one. But I agree with you - you don't know and fight rather hard to retain your faith.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

As I've said in a few of my comments here on Lemmy, even if you didn't personally experience the Soviet Union in its "prime", you must have heard first-hand stories about it from your parents or grandparents. Most of those who glorify the Soviet Union in these English-speaking spaces can't even say as much. Their whole understanding is built on propaganda viewed through the selection bias of "the enemy of my enemy" logic.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 0 points 19 hours ago

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[–] Rythm@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

@clot27 @doo so... How do you view the Soviet invasion of Poland?

[–] doo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Straightforward. Nazis and soviets had a military pact, jointly invaded and divided Poland, thus starting the ww2.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip -2 points 19 hours ago

Many european countries signed pact with nazis, lol. That means literally nothing, soviets were trying to rally french, UK, polish etc against germany before the MR pact but their irrational anti communism didnt let there to be any anti german alliance

Poland had invaded soviet ally czechoslovakia.

The two years which soviet got due that pact had there army almost quadrapuled, soviets knew germany would invade thats why they signed the pact to buy some time.