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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10879444

The granddaughter of Ayatollah Khamenei was martyred.

Source: https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/29249

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[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (6 children)

translationGod is great
Death to America
Death to Israel
Curse on the Jews
Victory to Islam

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Comrade I am sorry about how many white users you will have on your ass over this damn near universal cry from the middle east about how this makes white people feel upset on a thread about a murdered little girl. But you are 100% right.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

we have Classic Nazis in my country and they are supporting Classic Nazis in Ukraine. Canada literally gave a standing ovation to an actual original nazi. Tucker Carlson draws breath. Elon musk did that on tv, twice.

conflating israel with all jews plays into the hands of the zionists. I don't give a fuck about white liberal feelings, i care about the tactical error and the swastika seig heil nazis that are still around.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Canada literally gave a standing ovation to an actual original nazi.

Ukrainian Jew in the crowd

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[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This needs to be emojified, I've been feeling this emotion for years now. Although given the isntrael scandal, I doubt it would be approved of

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I was in the middle of the isntrael scandal (I made the catalyst emoji request for it) and the amount of liberal zionism that had to be beat out of this site was absurd.

An Arab child can have their body riddled with bullet holes and crushed under concrete but when the parent says "death to Jews" that becomes the problem instead.

A Palestinian man can take a picture of a starving dog and have the whole world shed tears for the dog and not for the man whose family is also sick and starving, in a shelter not even fit for a dog.

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

White feelings will always matter over poc lives.

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

An Arab child can have their body riddled with bullet holes and crushed under concrete but when the parent says "death to Jews" that becomes the problem instead.

Literally this. A reminder to everyone that this is under the post of a little girl who was killed as collateral along with her whole family in a strike by Israel. The performative outrage because a few people learned some words that were translated for them after 20 years is tone deaf as all hell.

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

White feelings > lives of the people considered expendable to the empire. Every damn time.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I was in the middle of the isntrael scandal (I made the catalyst emoji request for it)

rat-salute Thank you

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think there's a better case for not doing it given the "A curse upon the Jews" part

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.

It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.

To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.

Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When Jewish supremacists are doing a Jewish supremacist apartheid with the goal of creating a Jewish ethnostate that dehumanizes, displaces, and destroys countless Indigenous cultures with the ultimate aim of genocide, then somehow the victims of that colonial monstrosity are expressing bigotry by cursing their Jewish oppressors.

As if the history of European anti-Semitism is now the sin of the Ummah, and they must atone for the crimes of white colonizers. Projection of guilt through and through.

Complete lack of understanding racism as systemic, too. As though the oppressor is being reverse-oppressed through prejudiced language by the oppressed, a thing they will performatively claim to understand does not exist when people insult white people.

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

When the structures of power create hierarchies of livable lives and grievable deaths, those who exercise that power, who operate with the privilege of being seen fully as human, as subjects in history, can reify that power through oppressive language.

When those who are deemed objects in history, dehumanized by the structures of power, use their language, it cannot by definition be oppressive, as they, by definition, do not have the power to oppress. These categories are not essential and immutable--the oppressor can become the oppressed, the oppressed can become the oppressor.

But by no metric can anyone watching the current state of the world claim in good faith that the Jewish supremacist, genocidal ethnostate is by any means the victim of oppression. Outrageous.

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression

This is a crass generalization made to just to play with words to make excuses.

Jews are not a race

Obviously

nor are they an ethnicity

Ridiculous. They are a group of ethnicities, and while some ancestrally Jewish populations are so assimilated into other groups that they really aren't a distinct ethnicity anymore, that's not true universally even in America (where generally they are extremely assimilated).

To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.

I'm not saying shit about them, let alone to them, I'm talking about this website.

and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.

If you enjoy playing mind-reader, that's fine, but don't rope me into your fantasy roleplay.

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[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

im disappointed so many people here dont know the full collective outcry when they say "death to america." It was one of the first things I learned about when I began reading theory. How may people are saying death to america without knowing the full context, or picking and choosing when to show outrage over a line that makes them uncomfortable? Without listening to the voices of the collective outcry?

[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hexbear slogan : Death To America

anyway I recommend Mark Mazower's book on antisemitism : a word in history

alt text: could antisemitism perhaps even become one of those terms that -- as he wrote -- remain "like a fossil" to testify the preoccupations of the bygone era? All we can say is that contention is over.

mark mazower

on antisemitism : a word in history

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Death to America

Based.

Death to Israel

Based.

Curse on the Jews

Not based.

2/3

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.

It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.

To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.

Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To do politeness finger wagging

Those people are not the ones reading this and while it is understandable why that slogan manifested there is absolutely reason to say that part is not okay.

Critiquing actually bigoted language is not "politeness finger wagging"

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you considered that your position comes from one assuming that the people engaging in this rhetoric are European and not themselves victim of the Jewish supremacist project? That telling people online this language is not okay for them, but understandable for "those people" is a way of reinforcing that this space is not for "those people," and instead it is a space for white Americans and Europeans? That you already assumed that "those people are not the ones reading this," once again universalizing American experience and relegating the experience of people elsewhere as an exotic other that must not exist in your space?

That if you, as a white American, feel uncomfortable using that language you could simply not use it yourself, knowing that for you it carries the burden of a history of anti-Jewish pogroms? A history that is not a burden for the Jewish supremacist apartheid state's victims to carry and shoulder the guilt of?

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How the fuck is it me siding with zionists by saying hey maybe we shouldn't make an emoji out of a slogan with "Curse upon the jews"?

Again what the fuck is wrong with you?

[–] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (9 children)

How the fuck is it me siding with zionists

Could you show me where I said that?

Because I showed you quite clearly where your argument, the things you actually said, reinforce the understanding that this is a space for predominantly white American/European users, by the very assumption that "those people are not the ones reading this."

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[–] Moss@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Curse on the Jews" hey what the fuck?

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (22 children)

"Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.

It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.

To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.

Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.

[–] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago

To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.

Enough said.

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