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God is greatDeath to America
Death to Israel
Curse on the Jews
Victory to Islam
im disappointed so many people here dont know the full collective outcry when they say "death to america." It was one of the first things I learned about when I began reading theory. How may people are saying death to america without knowing the full context, or picking and choosing when to show outrage over a line that makes them uncomfortable? Without listening to the voices of the collective outcry?
hexbear slogan : Death To America
anyway I recommend Mark Mazower's book on antisemitism : a word in history
alt text: could antisemitism perhaps even become one of those terms that -- as he wrote -- remain "like a fossil" to testify the preoccupations of the bygone era? All we can say is that contention is over.
mark mazower
on antisemitism : a word in history
Comrade I am sorry about how many white users you will have on your ass over this damn near universal cry from the middle east about how this makes white people feel upset on a thread about a murdered little girl. But you are 100% right.
we have Classic Nazis in my country and they are supporting Classic Nazis in Ukraine. Canada literally gave a standing ovation to an actual original nazi. Tucker Carlson draws breath. Elon musk did that on tv, twice.
conflating israel with all jews plays into the hands of the zionists. I don't give a fuck about white liberal feelings, i care about the tactical error and the swastika seig heil nazis that are still around.
Ukrainian Jew in the crowd
This needs to be emojified, I've been feeling this emotion for years now. Although given the
scandal, I doubt it would be approved of
I was in the middle of the
scandal (I made the catalyst emoji request for it) and the amount of liberal zionism that had to be beat out of this site was absurd.
An Arab child can have their body riddled with bullet holes and crushed under concrete but when the parent says "death to Jews" that becomes the problem instead.
A Palestinian man can take a picture of a starving dog and have the whole world shed tears for the dog and not for the man whose family is also sick and starving, in a shelter not even fit for a dog.
Literally this. A reminder to everyone that this is under the post of a little girl who was killed as collateral along with her whole family in a strike by Israel. The performative outrage because a few people learned some words that were translated for them after 20 years is tone deaf as all hell.
White feelings will always matter over poc lives.
I think there's a better case for not doing it given the "A curse upon the Jews" part
https://youtu.be/9k3hAkr1FNc?t=277
RIP comrade LoveYourself
"Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.
This is a crass generalization made to just to play with words to make excuses.
Obviously
Ridiculous. They are a group of ethnicities, and while some ancestrally Jewish populations are so assimilated into other groups that they really aren't a distinct ethnicity anymore, that's not true universally even in America (where generally they are extremely assimilated).
I'm not saying shit about them, let alone to them, I'm talking about this website.
If you enjoy playing mind-reader, that's fine, but don't rope me into your fantasy roleplay.
When Jewish supremacists are doing a Jewish supremacist apartheid with the goal of creating a Jewish ethnostate that dehumanizes, displaces, and destroys countless Indigenous cultures with the ultimate aim of genocide, then somehow the victims of that colonial monstrosity are expressing bigotry by cursing their Jewish oppressors.
As if the history of European anti-Semitism is now the sin of the Ummah, and they must atone for the crimes of white colonizers. Projection of guilt through and through.
Complete lack of understanding racism as systemic, too. As though the oppressor is being reverse-oppressed through prejudiced language by the oppressed, a thing they will performatively claim to understand does not exist when people insult white people.
When the structures of power create hierarchies of livable lives and grievable deaths, those who exercise that power, who operate with the privilege of being seen fully as human, as subjects in history, can reify that power through oppressive language.
When those who are deemed objects in history, dehumanized by the structures of power, use their language, it cannot by definition be oppressive, as they, by definition, do not have the power to oppress. These categories are not essential and immutable--the oppressor can become the oppressed, the oppressed can become the oppressor.
But by no metric can anyone watching the current state of the world claim in good faith that the Jewish supremacist, genocidal ethnostate is by any means the victim of oppression. Outrageous.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said, that Israel is a victim. I'm really glad you're trying to deal with this in good faith.
None of what i said was in reply to you, but sure, let's talk about good faith. You presumably read through six paragraphs of my thoughts on how the oppressed cannot use language as a tool of oppression (more, actually, since you also read my replies to, again, someone who isn't you, merely to ignore what i said and call me hostile and accuse me of playing the victim, a classic bigoted trope mind you), and the only thing you had to say about it was that you're not calling the Zionist entity victims, not engaging at all with the content of my discussion. The content of my discussion, by the way, being that whether or not you personally consider the Zionist entity to be victims, by equating the language of the oppressed to the systemic racism of the white settler anti-Semites, you are, whether intentionally or not, equating the struggle of the oppressed to the struggle of the oppressor. You are misunderstanding what oppressive language is, and foisting the burden of the guilt of European anti-Semitism on people in an existential struggle against Jewish supremacists.
Language, like all social structures, is built on systems of power. Not all language is equal. Universalizing discourse is itself a colonial endeavour that silences the marginalized in favour of the narrative of the hegemony.
If you have real thoughts about this you could certainly express them, but defensively rejecting an accusation I never made toward you is very productive and good faith.
Based.
Based.
Not based.
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"Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt.
Those people are not the ones reading this and while it is understandable why that slogan manifested there is absolutely reason to say that part is not okay.
Critiquing actually bigoted language is not "politeness finger wagging"
Have you considered that your position comes from one assuming that the people engaging in this rhetoric are European and not themselves victim of the Jewish supremacist project? That telling people online this language is not okay for them, but understandable for "those people" is a way of reinforcing that this space is not for "those people," and instead it is a space for white Americans and Europeans? That you already assumed that "those people are not the ones reading this," once again universalizing American experience and relegating the experience of people elsewhere as an exotic other that must not exist in your space?
That if you, as a white American, feel uncomfortable using that language you could simply not use it yourself, knowing that for you it carries the burden of a history of anti-Jewish pogroms? A history that is not a burden for the Jewish supremacist apartheid state's victims to carry and shoulder the guilt of?
How the fuck is it me siding with zionists by saying hey maybe we shouldn't make an emoji out of a slogan with "Curse upon the jews"?
Again what the fuck is wrong with you?
Could you show me where I said that?
Because I showed you quite clearly where your argument, the things you actually said, reinforce the understanding that this is a space for predominantly white American/European users, by the very assumption that "those people are not the ones reading this."
I think you are misreading what I said. Zionists are not the ones reading this. If there are any here they get banned pretty fast. The only people that would be seeing for example the emoji another user requested, are not the people you are talking about. Why do you keep talking past my actual point?
You immediately jumped to cussing me out with "Again what the fuck is wrong with you?" and are now saying I "keep" talking past your point, making me think you didn't bother to read that I am a different person and that I hadn't previously engaged with you on this thread.
As for misreading you, I suppose I did if that is what you were trying to say, though I will clarify that hello_hello said you were doing "polite finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide" which you quoted and responded "those people are not the ones reading this," so I would say that your writing is unclear as that sequence to me is pretty clearly you saying that the people who have suffered genocide are not the ones reading this.
I am also not "talking past" your point. I disagree with your point and simply politely invited you to consider things from a less American-centric perspective. You responded with typical American hostility though, because Americans are never able to see past their own perspective and respond to any and all criticism with hostility and self-righteous indignation.
Good luck with that.
You're being plenty hostile throughout the thread. I thought you hated victim acts? Everything is incredulity and shut-up lines and misrepresentation.
Disagreeing with Americans is hostility and a "victim act." Classic.
Sorry, she has not once been hostile, I'm reading her posts and they show much more restraint that I'm capable of reading this shit. Meanwhile other people have hair trigger jumped to "fuck you" and "fuck off" at people who understand the context better than they do
Bás do Mheiriceá
Bleaist eascainí
Chead acu focáil leo i dtigh an diabhail
Neither of us are from that region I just don't see what is productive about getting defensive of people criticizing that one line of that slogan.
"Curse on the Jews" hey what the fuck?
Enough said.
We should definitely not fall to literal anti-semitism no matter the case the fuck is wrong with you?
The cry universally used by the resistance is that to you now lmao gotta phone Ansar Allah real quick. Like hello_hello previously said:
""Al Sarkha" or "the collective outcry" from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line "Curse upon the the Jews" has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel's myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person's feelings might be hurt."
Wtf is wrong with you that you'd rather police the language of genocide victims and survivors over nearly 200 little girls murdered in a day?
I hear this a lot on Hexbear, but would anybody on this site object to banning someone for posting e.g. Happy Merchant cartoons?
Happy Merchant cartoons, created by "A. Wyatt Mann", are fundemantally different from Al Sarkha. There is no comparison.
Fuck off that isn't what I or anyone else is doing. Jewish people did also suffer genocide, doesn't excuse what Israel does but it also doesn't excuse repeating "Curse on the Jews" I'm not even Jewish but it's obviously not cool fuck off.
How do you feel about "A curse upon the christians" said by the people oppressed by christian supremacism, given the history of christian genocide in Turkey (Armenian, devshirme)?
What if it was actually meant to be read as "Death to Israel" -> "A curse upon the Jews" referring to how Israel is a curse on Jews everywhere who have been pulled into its orbit of settler colonialism just by existing?
oh go fuck yourself im so serious
The slogan is from 2003 and is no longer primarily used today (instead being superseded by "America is the mother of all terrorism"), you had over 20 years to say "hey what the fuck" but specifically it had to be right now. The Sarkha was being posted during the ongoing genocide of Palestine after the Al Aqsa flood with the same translation.
If I didn't even provide a translation would you even have noticed? Maybe I should have censored the translation and said "Curse upon the Jews of Israel" and not have presented Yemeni victimization as it was back then.
No, I wouldnt have noticed because don't read Arabic, congrats, you got me, what point are you trying to prove? Pretending that anti-semitism doesn't go hand-in-hand with fascism and colonialism is ridiculous.
Do you seriously think I don't care about the people America massacres because they're muslim? Do I need to perform my disgust so everyone knows I think this is terrible? Fucking obviously I'm horrified. But "curse upon the Jews" isn't anticolonial or anti-fascist, and its not an analysis any communist should ever agree with.
But the Zionist entity is very specifically a fascist, colonial, and Jewish supremacist ethnostate. Is anti-Semitism truly the core of Jewish supremacy? Does it go hand-in-hand? Sure, we see quite often how fuelling anti-Semitism abroad is a tactic for inspiring support of the Zionist project in Occupied Palestine, but is it correct to say that the Jewish supremacist ethnostate is itself, within its own self-conception, anti-Semitic? And is that anti-Semitism a key feature and more important to analyze than the predominant ideological basis of its existence: fascist, colonial, Jewish supremacy?
because from your sentence here, it seems like you are saying that by virtue of their purported anti-Semitism, the victims of the Zionist project are walking hand-in-hand with fascism and colonialism, rather being subjected to it at the hands of the very fascist and colonial Jewish supremacist ethnostate.
I am stressing that the Zionist project is Jewish supremacist because it is a core component of the entity's identity and ultimate goal, and a key piece of understanding why that sentiment exists in this outcry.
Yes it is.
Yeah but we have people in this thread asking for an emoji of it. That is a problem.