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[–] brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca 23 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I think we really should stick to calling him “Prince Andrew.” If we don’t we’re letting the monarchy separate itself from him…but that’s bullshit; he has the privilege of being a prince and his status as prince is not just what gave him the liberty to be a monster, but I think we can assume it’s what actually made him a monster.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

The Andrew formerly known as a prince.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I heard a very interesting argument that if the Royal family can remove Andrew from the line of succession, then the line itself can be manipulated, and anyone else could be added. In that case, what is the point of having a royal family?

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Seems a little threadbare as a theory.

People have been adding other people to royal families for the entirety of recorded history.

Sometimes its through marriage, but sometimes its adoption, sometimes they just make up a lineage.

Now, theres arguments against royalty, for sure, but if the royal family wasn't allowed to prune itself, find the best people and merge them into the royal family, etc, there never would've been royals in the first place. Royal families begin with individuals but they remain by caring about "good breeding" (and other ways of consolidating power).

Consolidating is the real purpose. It can be obscured with religious lines of divinity, or what have you, but royal families are always shopping for people to incorporate.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Eh… I have mixed feelings on that.

Firstly, I don’t think his position made him a monster. I absolutely think it made it easier to become one, but there are plenty of opportunistic pedophiles who aren’t princes. In fact I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say the vast majority aren’t princes

Secondly, correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t the majority of his privilege been stripped from him? Yeah, he can still visit royal places and such, but doesn’t he have about the same “power” as an in law or something?

There’s also the question of if the monarchy enabled his actions. Though, again I admit they may not have done enough after learning of his actions.

As a Canadian who never really paid attention to British royalty, this feels a lot like blaming a family for one member committing a mass murder. But that could just be a lack of understanding on my part.

[–] Ikon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

Well when the family has a long history of mass murder....