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Yeah being banned for calling dipshits on this site cracker over them calling Black people gusanos makes me ableist, great fuckin take
The modlog explains why you were banned.
Edit: I agree with you that the slur causes real harm and the "gusano" comparison is distasteful. You are still wrong about Tourette's. Your comment about it being possible it was "medically induced racism" are still ableist.
Edit 2: changed the quote above to the actual phrasing of your comment. I don't mean to misrepresent what you said.
It's almost like that mod is a liar and doesn't know how to read or understand basic concepts like intent =/= impact, and seemingly doesn't give a shit about other users calling Black people gusanos
Please see my edit. Sorry, I think I edited while you were replying.
"distasteful" is that what you call it, cool
Again with the bullshit lies, I did not claim Tourette's is medically induced racism, that makes no sense, as I pointed out in that thread 99% of people suffering from Tourettes do not unconsciously scream slurs at Black people
I was talking about an individual's specific condition, which apparently induced him to be racist, RACISM THE VERB, not simply the mindset you dense crackers, his intent is irrelevant; what matters is the harm he perpetrated and how that harm was mitigated (or in this case, not mitigated) in the aftermath
Internal mindset of a disabled individual suffering embarrassment: less relevant, though open to sypmaphty
Actions unconsciously taken by said individual that seriously harm Black people attending: Far more relevant and crucially in need of centering in light the horrendeous handling by the event planners
Intent =/= Impact, this is some real basic baby leftist shit and it's genuinely embarrassing how many of you can't figure this out
I call it distasteful because it was ambiguous and clarified in later comments (it was just about standpoint epistemology being wrong, not meaning to equate the black people who are upset to gusanos). That ambiguousness of course does harm PoC who had to read the comment (presumably including you) and that is wrong and should be avoided.
You're just wrong. Some other people who suffer from the type and severity that this man suffered from would obviously do this. This is why you're facing so much backlash, you are just wrong about the disability issues which are involved, and you seem to be insisting again that there is something specially racist about this man that makes him different from other people with tourette's and that's why he's saying slurs.
This, however, is a better explanation of your point and thank you for giving it. I agree with you that regardless of his intent, which was clearly and obviously not racist, his actions still caused harm to the black people on the receiving end.
I agree with the rest of your comment, but as true as it is that for proper accountability in this situation we need to correctly identify the issues of racism involved, it's equally true that we need to correctly identify the issues of disability involved.
The invocation of standpoint epistemology was inappropriate from the start considering the comment he responded to, pushing it into comparisons with gusanos was just him showing his ass and making his contempt for Black people upset over this explicit
Where did I claim otherwise, this is utterly irrelevant to any of my points, again intent doesn't matter, the harm inflicted does, me pointing out most sufferers of Tourettes don't scream slurs at Black people was just me dealing with a bullshit tangential accusation that claimed I believed something I didn't, because you dense crackers don't know how interpret something so easily interpretable as "medically induced racism" because you and that little racist now comparing upset Black people to Jevohah Witnesses, think racism is simply a mindset and not predominantly A VERB, like some CNN libs
Oh thanks, what a compliment, so glad I got the seal of approval after you trashed me and everyone else upset over this bullshit in the rest of the thread
Edit: The whites having a timeout huddle under me is really funny
I didn't mean to condescend to you and I'm sorry if I did. I don't think I'm going to be able to reply to you further in this discussion without hurting you and myself more. This is a difficult and traumatic topic for everyone involved and I don't want to keep triggering those issues for both you and myself when I don't feel we're going to resolve this with this conversation.
You have been more than polite, fair, and patient in your discussion here. Thank you for all of your input, because I really appreciate it.
Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any further point in talking to CyborgMarx about this issue. I even continued my own conversation with them into private messages, taking care to be kind and respectful, but I've just been stonewalled with a complete refusal to engage in good faith. I had hoped that reasonable discussion and a day to think would have helped, but it hasn't. For my own mental health I'm going to disengage from them entirely.
No, you were banned from the comm due primarily to your intense hostility to me after I clearly explained to you why and how you were being ableist and offensive to people like me, who have Tourette's syndrome. Rather than respect my points about the condition, you proceeded to hurl the same hateful comments that I have faced in my life many times before.
Your fellow comrades have been patient, fair, and respectful towards you, but here you are, still picking fights and stirring shit up almost a day later.
Tell me again how I need to sit down and have things explained to me, tell me again
Hateful comments like 'racism is bad no matter the intent'
You have made it very clear that you have no intention of learning even a single thing about the topics you are ignorant about. Instead, you would rather insult and belittle the people here who have given you every opportunity to be better than you have been. You have zero respect or regard for good-faith discussion. I am beyond done wasting time with your ableism.
Never before have I seen someone so intensely hostile to a person that already agrees with every one of their arguments. It's pathetic, and you really need to take some time to reevaluate why you treat others like this.
Continue ignoring all my points and calling me uppity, do it again
Disengage. If you want me to address your points, go back and read the multitude of my comments where I have already done so.
Do you think your head would explode if you recognized Black people have every right to be upset, that disability doesn't negate racial abuse, that intent does not erase impact..........guess not, and I better shut up before you find another disreputable group to compare Black people to
I said I wasn't going to be abusive. I'm not afraid of you or any of your friends. I am an adult who's spent way too long in Leftist spaces to be browbeaten by anyone.
Why you delete it then, tell me more about how Black people hide behind their identity
I just told you why.
you are wastivg your life and it will never come back
No one called you a Gusano. I implied that black people are not inherently correct about everything because they are black. This was perfectly demonstrated by people claiming that they understand Tourette's in one comment and then saying that John Davidson is a racist in another because he didn't call white presenters crackers.
Am I obligated to Listen To Jehovah's Witness Voices? They have the same stance on medical science.
Yeah, when I read your further comments in that thread I understood you were only making a point about standpoint epistemology (if an identity made someone correct on a subject, we would have to listen to gusanos). I understand why the way it was phrased might hurt someone, though. And that hurt does harm black people, just as disabled people are harmed by some of the discourse on this subject.
This along with the comment that mentioned "medically induced racism" were the actual reason for the comm ban.
I can understand the first comment being ambiguous enough to cause confusion, but the second makes it explicit. People came in in bad faith, refusing to even entertain the notion that they could possibly be wrong. Why am I obligated to be comradely to people who literally do not believe in medical science about disabilities? Why should I trust my disabled family members' well-being to anyone who ignores medical science when it annoys them?
I agree with you. People did come in in bad faith and with zero understanding of the disability. However, that bad faith came from the very real harm they suffered due to the issues of race involved. That's why I think it's more productive to be comradely here, so we can avoid unintentionally inflicting further racial trauma on people AND so that we can maybe work through these issues in productive ways. I think your anger and frustration here is totally fair, and I share it. But the anger and frustration of other people in the conversation is real and valid too.
On some level I agree. Just like John Davidson's immediate reaction being to say that he's not racist is a response to the trauma that being hospitalized for his disability has caused him. But at some point I have to believe my lying eyes and see that there's about an 80% overlap between people who say that educating them about Tourette's is racist and people who do not believe that Tourette's is real. Due to my identity, nothing I say can possibly get across. So do I wait for black disabled people to try to have that conversation? There's already been one disabled black girl harassed off social media for explaining that coprolalia is real and John Davidson is not a racist for his outburst.
So I'm going to do the only thing I can, which is defend disabled people and not budge an inch. I'm not going to be abusive, but I refuse to back down because the person I'm talking to has a different identity, unless we're going to start applying that to the disabled.
Well, I hadn't heard of this and that's just depressing.
Again, the pain people feel here is very real, on "both sides" (they're not really sides in reality of course). I wish there was a way to fix these things easily, but with these types of trauma involved people (on "both sides") have reasonable and understandable reactions that can make discussion very difficult.
I understand.