I call it distasteful because it was ambiguous and clarified in later comments (it was just about standpoint epistemology being wrong, not meaning to equate the black people who are upset to gusanos). That ambiguousness of course does harm PoC who had to read the comment (presumably including you) and that is wrong and should be avoided.

as I pointed out in that thread 99% of people suffering from Tourettes do not unconsciously scream slurs at Black people

You're just wrong. Some other people who suffer from the type and severity that this man suffered from would obviously do this. This is why you're facing so much backlash, you are just wrong about the disability issues which are involved, and you seem to be insisting again that there is something specially racist about this man that makes him different from other people with tourette's and that's why he's saying slurs.

I was talking about an individual's specific condition, which apprreoanlty induced him to be racist, RACISM THE VERB, not simply the mindset you dense crackers, his intent is irrelevant; what matters is the harm he perpetrated and how that harm was mitigated (or in this case, not mitigated) in the aftermath

This, however, is a better explanation of your point and thank you for giving it. I agree with you that regardless of his intent, which was clearly and obviously not racist, his actions still caused harm to the black people on the receiving end.

I agree with the rest of your comment, but as true as it is that for proper accountability in this situation we need to correctly identify the issues of racism involved, it's equally true that we need to correctly identify the issues of disability involved.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

it was just about standpoint epistemology being wrong, not meaning to equate the black people who are upset to gusanos). That ambiguousness of course does harm PoC who had to read the comment (presumably including you).

The invocation of standpoint epistemology was inappropriate from the start considering the comment he responded to, pushing it into comparisons with gusanos was just him showing his ass and making his contempt for Black people upset over this explicit

You're just wrong. Some other people who suffer from the type and severity that this man suffered from would obviously do this.

Where did I claim otherwise, this is utterly irrelevant to any of my points, again intent doesn't matter, the harm inflicted does, me pointing out most sufferers of Tourettes don't scream slurs at Black people was just me dealing with a bullshit tangential accusation that claimed I believed something I didn't, because you dense crackers don't know how interpret something so easily interpretable as "medically induced racism" because you and that little racist now comparing upset Black people to Jevohah Witnesses, think racism is simply a mindset and not predominantly A VERB, like some CNN libs

This, however, is a better explanation of your point and thank you for giving it. I agree with you that regardless of his intent, which was clearly and obviously not racist, his actions still caused harm to the black people on the receiving end.

Oh thanks, what a compliment, so glad I got the seal of approval after you trashed me and everyone else upset over this bullshit in the rest of the thread

Edit: The whites having a timeout huddle under me is really funny

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I didn't mean to condescend to you and I'm sorry if I did. I don't think I'm going to be able to reply to you further in this discussion without hurting you and myself more. This is a difficult and traumatic topic for everyone involved and I don't want to keep triggering those issues for both you and myself when I don't feel we're going to resolve this with this conversation.

[–] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

You have been more than polite, fair, and patient in your discussion here. Thank you for all of your input, because I really appreciate it.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any further point in talking to CyborgMarx about this issue. I even continued my own conversation with them into private messages, taking care to be kind and respectful, but I've just been stonewalled with a complete refusal to engage in good faith. I had hoped that reasonable discussion and a day to think would have helped, but it hasn't. For my own mental health I'm going to disengage from them entirely.