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AI has its uses.
You can critically think where to use it, and when. E.g. installing an open source AI on your computer that works offline.
I have used it to get pictures for my story characters.
It’s a shiny new tool, humans wanna use it on everything. Hopefully we find a balance. There’s a lot Ai can do that a human literally cannot, background work and such, I’ve seen it implemented in great ways. The problem isnt the tool, it’s the corporate dirtbags who want to maximize profits out of it
They haven't even figured out how out make profit off of it, let alone maximize it. I really don't understand the current approach. "Let's slam this unfathomably expensive technology into everything and not turn a profit. Oh, also, it's destroying the environment and making electronics and power really expensive"
People need to explain in clear detail to others the environmental impact of ai and how it causes that impact. You’re telling people that making a funny photo is fucking up the environment, you have to be more clear. Im not a dummy but the idea that ai is damaging the actual environment is vague and nebulous. It’s never been explained or shown to people in large way how it’s actually happening, so it’s not real to people because it’s not widely explained
The thing is that image generators aren't even such big environmental hazards. They are often comparable to other activities like gaming, since you can often run them locally. At scale that's also a bad thing to have, but we don't get people up in arms about many equivalent things.
It's the biggest LLMs that are extraordinarily inefficient, since you need entire compute clusters to get those running. There's just not really a way to put every AI tech into the same box except by not caring about the truth, so it makes the people that don't draw that nuance look very scummy to people aware of that nuance.
The pictures you got for your story are a result of plagiarism.
I'm not actually making a value judgement. If they make you happy, that's great and im happy for you.
Kinda like how diamond engagement rings make people happy. You gotta accept how that sausage was made
Just being contrarian but everything creative is plagiarism.
It’s not, though. That’s just something ~~hacks~~ plagiarists say.
But it is though. Chappell Roan is just a derivative of Kate Bush. AI is not copying it's using what it knows as a template. No different than you or I. To think otherwise is to have your head up your ass.
Now we can argue if we should be allowing AI to do this and I believe no we shouldn't as it detracts from people being creative.
But that's not the argument you were responding to.
Coming back to this, who/what was Kate Bush plagiarizing?
Those who came before her. That's the point everything is an expansion and growth on what came before. We are a sum of our lived experiences.
Where AI fails (and why I would happy to see it die when it comes to creative experience) is it lacks the context. AI will never come from a tough childhood. It will never experience slavery first hand. It will never experience love. It will never experience so much of what makes us alive be it good or bad.
When someone interprets inspiration as plagiarism, that’s a solid sign that they are just a plagiarist making excuses for themself. That’s pathetic.
See? Hack shit. Do you really think this level of confident ignorance holds enough validity to even bother arguing with?
You don’t know what music theory even is or how tonal structures in music work, and it shows.
Edit: Your stance also implies that every society is plagiarism of Sumer, that every song is plagiarism of rhythmic grunting, and every piece of visual art is plagiarism of cave drawings. Are cars plagiarizing walking? You not being able to be creative or to apply effort does not equate to nobody being able to conceive and create something.
You know who came up with that little phrase of yours? Plagiarizers.
You scream of a neck beard pontificating from their parents basement.
I will bite though. What I will tell you is yes, everything is plagiarism in some way. Copywrite laws need to die
Every generation is built off the ones that came before it we are all plagiarizing from what we have learned over time. Now you can either bury your head up your ass or can acknowledge we are all hypocrites and move forward from that knowledge.
Plagiarism is how we evolve. There's a reason "plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery" is an expression.
That’s a lot of words that could just be summed up with, “I’m a plagiarizing capitalist and refuse to see how that’s shitty of me.”
So, it’s just plagiarism all the way down. No one ever came up with anything, ever? If you’re projected view of art is that nobody was ever capable of originality then that’s not a statement about art and originality, that’s a statement about you.
The problem is that even the open source models (and they're not fully open source anyway) aren't exactly trained ethically. They're still trained on stolen data, they are still consuming gargantuan quantities of water and using the same amount of power as a small city.
They are in no way harmless. The only thing that's better about them is that they don't steal your private data. The environmental issues are still there though.
The use cases don't cover the costs.
What do those pictures add to the story? Do you believe that because you're privileged enough to run it locally, that makes it ethical to use for you specifically, but not others that rely on datacenters?
Have you ever been to a movie theater? What did the pictures add to the story?
An appreciation for the artwork, craftsmanship, writing, and storytelling that means something because it’s a representation of the time, effort, dedication, art, and the human endeavor and spirit that went into it.
The same is true of all artwork. Some is good quality and takes months or years to complete, some is a scribble that took a few seconds. They're not different, friendo.
If a computer generated it, it’s not art, it’s algorithmic plagiarism.
It's the same as any other commercial tool. As long as it's profitable the owner will continue to sell it, and users who are willing to pay will buy it. You use commercial tools every day that are harmful to the environment. Do you drive? Heat your home? Buy meat, dairy or animal products?
I honestly don't know where this hatred for AI comes from; it feels like a trend that people jump onto because they want to be included in something.
AI is used in radiology to identify birth defects, cancer signs and heart problems. You're acting like its only use-case is artwork, which isn't true. You're welcome to your opinion but you're welcome to consider other perspectives as well. Ciao!
I mean, machine learning is great. I was replying to someone talking about using generative ai to make photos, not a doctor or a data scientist, to my knowledge.
I kinda love that response though, I'm going to save it. You can tell it's not even from a chatbox, it's just kinda too unhinged. Like 'oh you are curious how I view the ethics of my actions? You must hate cancer survivors.' I think ai bros do like to think of themselves as pushing the bounds of science, they don't see themselves as consumers.
Lol I think I struck a nerve
Found someone who's more desperate to fit in than educate themselves about what "AI" means. Welcome to the club buddy, you made it! Congrats!
Our paper bills are money. "Truth" or not? If we as a society stop adhering to that system, the paper stops being money.
I think you're assuming that your philosophical view is objectively correct, and it's not. Sorry. The world doesn't revolve around you and you can't always be right. Hope that makes sense.
Love and blessings be upon you :))))))))
But your philosophical view is objectively correct, right?
We have already stopped adhering to paper money. Paper bills aren’t actually money, otherwise they would have static value, it’s a proxy for currency that is now based on debt, which changed from the gold standard. You can also have a lot of money and not have a single piece of paper that represents it and not being hindered in any way from accessing and using that money. The way that money as a tool is functionally used has not changed, though, and paper still works as money.
Money is not art, though. The fuck does any of this have to do with LLMs and dispersion frauds?
Who are you, again?
Someone smarter than you.
Are you sure?
Would you care to address my argument, rather than being an entitled condescending little shit?
Entirely certain.