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‘We’re no longer attracting top talent’: the brain drain killing American science
(www.theguardian.com)
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dart board;; science bs
rule #1: be kind
Well, come to Europe instead. Ok, you won't get a 250K salary but you get parental leave, universal health care, functioning public transport, child care, state indoctrination free schools, etc.
Yeah but will those people also get those things? (squints hard in American) /s
I’m not in academia anymore but I’m in tech, would love to move to Europe but immigration seems pretty tough
Hi! I'm an engineer and have done it. It's of course not easy but it's totally doable. I guess my really high level advice would be:
Figure out what country(ies) you'd consider moving to (think about language stuff and your willingness to learn a new one if needed, prevalence of English, cost, climate, culture, etc)
Look for the visa requirements (very often in tech just "have a job" is enough for you and your family visa wise).
Look for jobs. Lots of places at least here in Denmark are very aware of the fact that they can get good talent leaving the US right now. My boss literally talks about it weekly. Employers will be glad to help with visas and with help moving. My employer that I moved with found us a place to live (furnished) for 3 months and paid for it, got plane tickets, got someone to help with taxes, of course did visa things, and had someone help with all the "other stuff" like drivers license transfer, understanding healthcare, etc etc
If you actually want to consider it, it's really doable. It's been such a rewarding and amazing experience for us.
might be easier for something in demand , engineering PHD, mds, but so far people under bs/ms, since they are unlikely to have a career or experience in the field.
I know a fair few people here with just good experience in their fields who have gainful employment. I don't know what the OP's "in tech" job means exactly but fine chance they could find work imo. I thought it was a LOT more gate kept than it is. My partner is a scientist and found a job, only with an irrelevant BS and good experience. I know others with the same kind of situation.
Not to say that it's easy, but it's not as impossible as I once thought
trying to get academia position is quite brutal too.
if you have a PHD in niche specialities that is, or an md.
There's such a thing as a state indoctrination free school somewhere?
Depends on how sensitive you are, but I don't think most public schools indoctronate.
No you see in statesia it's all indoctrination because in one state they salute a flag and chant every day
That's actually a good example. You went to school there, so here's a little helper (because of your reading comprehension):
We're talking about civilized, non-shit hole countries however.
The US is grotesque in partisan influence, commercial priming, and lighting critical thinking in schools.
Education and indoctrination are the same thing from different perspectives
This sounds clever on the very surface, but it’s unhinged.
Ok. Thanks for your contribution