Canada

And also, finally, coalitions in our government are a reality. In Canada, minority/parliament dynamics make “vote + apply pressure” a real lever.

A-fucking-men to that. It frustrates me to no end that people (conservatives) don't understand that that's precisely how a minority goverment is supposed to function.

You'd watch Pierre Poppinfresh get on his stump about "collusion" between the NDP and the Liberals like it's some kind of conspiracy when in reality it's just how shit gets done. Negotiation and compromise.

The conservative party (at least those that are on the MapleMAGA spectrum) have a binary view of governning; if they're not the ones in power, they would rather not contribute to the government by negotiating and having a hand in shaping policy, because doing so would give the Liberals a "win" and that is anathema to a modern hard-C Conservative.

So instead of actually actively taking part in government, they stump around shouting at the other parties that do.

And how is the NDP supposed be built if we keep not voting for them? Are they supposed to just do a bunch of work for free for a few decades? They basically already have, and they simply got loss of official party status as a reward for that.

The Liberals aren’t just boring, they’re actively harmful. I don’t want Poilievre anywhere near power either but I’m not so naive as to believe that this battle is over, or even progressing, just because we sacrificed our values again. They’ve become very close to the conservatives we were all supposed to be afraid of back in 2021, and their trajectory is that they’re getting worse, not better. If the Liberal voters are so wise, should they not be acutely aware of this fact?

You even admit that coalitions work and, I imagine, understand that the NDP used their leverage to get Canadians things that we needed when the Liberals weren’t going to on their own. They fight for us even when they aren’t in full control. How are they supposed to form a coalition without having any seats?

It’s always “now is not the time” with you lot. It’s cowardly and weak. You’re right that it’s going to take time, so we better start now if we want to see any change in the future. Yes, it will suck for a moment, but do you really believe that the solution is to make endless excuses every single election cycle?

And they constantly in fight and bicker over who gets to ride the highest horse.

Lol dam, straight. The NDP are like 16 year Olds who see the world through rose color glasses.

Instead of doing shit to make more jobs and better jobs, they would rather just make a bigger welfare program.

Andrea horwath , the former leader of ontario, ndp. Current mayor of hamilton. Worst fucking mayor I have ever seen. Blows a bunch of money on tiny home bulshit that flopped like old man dick. Raised property taxes in the city with the highest property tax already. Doesn't seem to understand how everyone does lunch everyday with out having catering

Why? Was it all the stuff they got done when the only power they had was a coalition government? What was it? And Carney getting stuff done is better even though the stuff being done is bad? What about the Liberals and their constant lying, scheming, and persistent disdain for the working class make them a better choice?

Are for real? You cannot honestly be that stupid, can you?