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[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 24 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

I don’t understand the business case for humanoid robots other than “cool toy for a show room floor”.

Surely anything an AI humanoid can do could be better done by a specialized regular robot.

A huge part of the Industrial Revolution was standardizing how everything got done, every car panel the same size and all that, enabling Henry Ford style factory floors.

What is the benefit of having robots who can do more or less anything (just like a human) but in varying and non-standard ways each time (just like a human) compared to Car-Panel-Bot-2000 which is going to make car panel after car panel for 20 years, each one microscopically the same?

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

I'm gonna quote what I already said elsewere on this issue:

The appeal of humanoid robots isn’t just automating production (because if it was just that specialized robots would be far better than any generalist humanoid), instead I think the appeal of humanoid robots is as a tool to manage the balance between employment and production output.

As a socialist society you want to become able to guarantee jobs and access to the products of labor to your citizens. Which means you have to balance level of automation with necessary output: too many robots and there’s not enough work for everyone, too few and there might be shortages of certain things due to underproduction. This means that ideally you want to be able to retire a few machines when there are peoples in need of a job and bring more machines in when workers retire or stop working for whatever other reasons.

But you can’t make the switch quickly enough with specialized robots because these require conditions so vastly different from human workers that you need to refit the entire factory floor or at least part of it both to bring robots in or to get them out, which can take months to years. With humanoid robots though, they can work with the exact same factory floors the human workers use, meaning switching between robots and humans is as easy as ordering the robots to walk in or out of the factory. That’s the best argument for humanoid robots in my opinion, and because of that I think it makes a lot of sense for a socialist country to develop the technology.

I'd like to add on top of that: the framing of a binary choice between either specialized robots or generalist humanoid robots is wrong. Humanoids will without a doubt work alongside specialized robots, just like human workers currently do.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 23 points 12 hours ago

the one benefit is as you say, the versatility. We already have a world built for humans, so a human shape means generalized compatibility with most objects

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

the best argument for humanoid robots i've heard is that you don't need to change the environment that they will be working in, they can just be slotted in where a human once was and take over the work

[–] TommyCatkins@hexbear.net 3 points 7 hours ago

Or you can just hire a housekeeper to fold your towels rather than spend $800,000 on a robot every 5 years to do it

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah, if they execute that idea successfully they could massively massively reduce the infrastructural costs of rolling these out.

If. But I don't think it's impossible.

[–] himeneko@hexbear.net 20 points 12 hours ago

the one thing that immediately comes to mind for humanoid robots is that they excel at navigating elevation changes made for humans. while it is exceedingly hard to do right, bipedal motion is very good at navigating discrete elevation changes like stairs. this would make them ideal household task robots in multi-story houses, i think.

this is off the top of my stupid ass head so take it w a grain of salt.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Your argument could be applied to ASICs and FPGAs/microcontrollers, and look at the market share of the latter two

[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Isn’t that the exact opposite though?

ASICs are specialized chips. They are highly use-case targeted. Microcontrollers are extremely specific, often single-task specific.

The robot that has been designed for the task of cutting metal panels exactly the same over and over seems like the equivalent of an ASIC or microcontroller here. Something designed for a specific purpose or small subset of purposes and capable of doing that purpose in an extremely optimized manner.

The AI humanoid seems more like a CPU here… capable of solving any problem but due to its general purpose nature, not optimized for any particular problem.

To continue pushing the analogy, to me humanoid AI robots seem the equivalent of trying to sell CPUs to mine bitcoin. The world already has a better solution.