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It's nice to see the traffic bollards, but they really couldn't put any on the corner that the biker turns right on at the end?
It's definitely nice to see effort put into separating it from the rest of the street, which is the safest option for cyclists.
That’s a crosswalk, you can’t stick a bollard there because it would block the ramp for a wheelchair-bound person. Designing this shit that works for everyone is hard when cars are in the mix…would be a lot easier to just ban the cars to come up with a design that works for everyone else.
This is, emphatically, not a crosswalk, and is the bit I am talking about. It's a raised curb which still protects the biker and extends between the two crosswalks but not crossing over them.
I guess my point is an out of control vehicle can still fly over that curb and cream a biker and/or pedestrians so it seems (to me) like a good place for bollards.
Wider view showing in context with the crosswalks:
Those aren't bollards. They're just thin plastic tubes with reflective tape on them to help drivers see where they aren't supposed to drive better.
What you're seeing this is one that already got run over or removed.
Yes, that's my point, there are actual bollards elsewhere on this stretch of bike lane, and I'm proposing actual bollards on this curb.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, how are so many people misunderstanding this?
These are the actual bollards I'm referring to. Fuck me. Why does everyone assume I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I know what a fucking actual bollard looks like. It's a concrete post with a rebar center that extends down into the base concrete/asphalt underneath. It's the whole reason I used the word "bollard."
I'm definitely not talking about these worthless things:
My point is those curb markers are not enough, as evidenced by one already being run over and torn away. Which is once again why there should be actual bollards there.
I may be wrong, but those white markers aren’t actual bollards either. They’re still plastic tubes with reflective tape. I don’t think they’d stop a car from driving through.
They look like standard plastic lane markers to me. They're designed to be fairly cheap and are therefore certainly not going to slow down any four wheeled vehicle.
I've seen some filled with cement, bu I don't think you're actually supposed to use them that way.
But that would be unsafe because it might injure the drivers of the out-of-control cars.
(This really is the 'logic' traffic engineers often use. The cyclist or pedestrian that might be on the other side of the bollard is rarely considered.)
Using this logic we should have bollards at all pedestrian crossings/intersections.
Its strange how a person on a bike highlights how unsafe streets and roads are because of cars
Also, these bollars that you are referring to here are actually only called curb markers. These are to show cars or snow plows where the curb is in low visibility. They are very similar to the marlers you may see for center curbs like these.
No, these are the bollards I'm talking about, they have actual bollards at various places on this stretch of bike lane.
My point is they could be effectively used in more places. I'm not a fucking idiot, I know what an actual bollard is. I'm talking about a concrete post with a rebar center firmly affixed to the base concrete/asphalt. Why would I even be using the word "bollard" if I didn't know what the fuck it was?
I'm not talking about these:
Ah. Yeah that seems like it would be a good idea.