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You don't understand who is not your ally. The people enriching the oligarch class are also not our allies.
For them it's a choice, not a need. There is a very very large experience and knowledge gap between our perspectives and I'm not going to spend my time bridging backwards while you try to frame Salesforce managers as being trapped in their labor class.
Meaning everyone who's ever bought anything from a corporation?
No. The people who willingly serve them. You are being like this on purpose. Go back to reddit.
So anyone who works for a corporation, meaning pretty much everyone?
Being like what "on purpose?" I'm simply applying your own words to reality.
This thread is exactly what i'm talking about...
We should be building guillotines together. Instead we wasted energy arguing and gatekeeping about which workers count as "working class", playing some kind of oppression olympics on who has the shittiest working conditions, or who has the purest socialist ideology...
"well this person has health benefits and 5 weeks vacation, NOT WORKING CLASS!!!"
"that person hasnt read the communist manifesto and works for a publicly traded corporation, NOT WORKING CLASS!!"
the irony is that the people who gatekeep the hardest about this shit are probably the ones suffering the most under our broken system. Yet they spend their energy alienating allies instead of including everyone
We cannot reasonably expect everyone to be an ally. Thetr is clearly 20-30% that will never be allies and must be treated as enemies or we'll end up with knives in our backs. This upsets a lot of people because it's a hard truth but we must move past it to have ant chance for progress.
20-30% will never be allies because the 0.001% has fooled you into wasting energy denouncing your fellow working class
(i probably fall into your strawman 20-30% that you think cannot be working class because i make more than minimum wage)
even though you dream about guillotining me when the glorious workers revolution happens in the future, i will fight for our cause today
You have completely misunderstood what I am saying.
I am not strawmanning any one or suggesting to strawman anyone. I fall not the same upper income bracket.
There are people all across the economic spectrum of working class who see others or themselves as not working class. Listen, state your case but do not waste time arguing with these people.
Remember who they are because when progress is being made they are the ones likely to sabotage.
Wait. Since independently owned company A with 50 employees in Podunk, Oklahoma sold to holdings company B, those 50 employees who didn't get fired but also have no savings and literally no other jobs to go to because of "AI replacing employees" don't need their jobs? Maybe those employees get a whopping 20-30 hours of week of clopenings at 8.00-15.00 per hour.
Please.
What are you taking about? Do you even know what Salesforce is???
you are not your own ally. would you like me to walk you through the economic proof, or do you understand?
My objections are to people claiming that they are the working poor. That is beyond ridiculous.
The 1% of weath owners own our society. You agree these are not our allies.
The SALESFORCE EMPLOYEES are among the 1% of salary earners. Meanwhile they could make a very very comfortable living doing anything else. But they choose to serve Mark Benioff.
My whole post is about Salesforce employees. You can't see that. If you acknowledge that I'm happy to be educated about SALESFORCE EMPLOYEES.
You know who else is the working class then? Managers working under oil execs, who own massive stake in the company. That's our "labor class"??
so it sounds like you don't understand and you're on a little whinge.