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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

EDITED TO ADD: Be aware that there is open and proven mass manipulation of votes taking place in this thread, and that the call to violence above to which I am responding is a part of that orchestrated effort to manipulate via manufactured approval/disapproval. Just so you know. Screenshots follow further on down the line.


I'm not angry at your message, I'm angry at your willful ignorance.

Protesting is the first step, not the last. It's how you meet your community and find out how, contrary to the lying media and firehose of propaganda, you are NOT alone, and all the different ways others are making their own difference the same way you want to. It's how you personally begin to recognize where real power lies, and think about how you personally can add to that unified voice.

That alone is HUGE. You clearly don't remember Friday, January 30 here in the US. It is when people simultaneously started walking out in all 50 states to protest this regime's hold on power. It was so frightening to them they released the latest tranche of the Epstein files because they were losing the perception game, had been for days, and that was the only thing they had left to drown out the voice of millions of pissed off Americans all wanting the same thing.

But all that unity and reclaiming of individual power started last summer with No Kings.

And the National Guard is OUT of LA and Portland and Chicago because of court orders calling their presence there illegal BECAUSE the violence the National Guard were called to quell did not exist in reality.

Right this minute, as I type this, we do NOT have martial law in the US because of the savvy and wisdom of LA and Chicago and especially Minneapolis, who learned after George Floyd and aren't giving in to the provocation game: instead of more ICE they have less, and the world's sympathetic attention to boot.

THAT is what got us all off our asses on January 30. NOT violence, but the active resistance of provocation thereto.

But hey, you know best. Go ahead and school us on all the successful violent protests in the US in the last fifty years, which will begin with you ignoring everything I just wrote and insisting the opposite is true while pulling fact-free arguments out of your ass to bolster your spurious position, and then I link the court orders and you ignore those too, and then you call me names and I ignore those too . . .

Or you could just back the fuck up and STOP trying to incite violence just because you wanna see Americans fight each other for your own entertainment, which is what this all comes down to because the number of successful VIOLENT protests in the US in the last fifty years is precisely zero.

[–] ShortYetLongDogs@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for putting the effort into this comment, it means a lot to people like me who feel what you're saying but haven't found the energy to put it into words. It's motivating to read it amongst all of the awful things we have to face these days.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just want to say I'm glad the mods banned the user you're replying to but left their comment up so people can see your reply.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can read comments that are taken down by opening the moderation history of the banned account.

Lemmy rules

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I reported it to the mods and to lemmy.world admin. I'm glad the mods took quick action here too.

But what I'm really hoping for is that the lemmy.world admins ALSO ban/delete the obvious alts. When I looked up these accounts, most but not all were eighteen days old, and they were all used in the same timeframe, in roughly the same order, to manipulate the vote histories.

All of this is in overt, specific violation of the lemmy.world TOS. I don't know what further proof they'd need.

EDITED TO ADD list of just the lemmy.org alts used in this specific vote manipulation, all created eighteen days ago, from Lemvotes:

dieICEdie@lemmy.org
diejldie@lemmy.org
staydead@lemmy.org
howmuchlonger@lemmy.org
poop@lemmy.org
simone@lemmy.org
tangerine@lemmy.org
randomname@lemmy.org
sam@lemmy.org
lundisafed@lemmy.org
sara@lemmy.org
jill@lemmy.org
tallarmoire@lemmy.org -- already banned

EDITED AGAIN to say a million thanks to the mods/admins that worked on this so quickly to ban the users and remove their content, and as far as I know still are. I see from the modlog you've been busy wiping them and their content, and I could not be more grateful. May your good come back to you, and I mean that sincerely.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The real despair to feel here is about the massive sites like twitter and reddit, and how many people are doing this same act with even more effort, actual funding, actual headquarters and organized planning to manufacture conversations and debates, every single day, around the clock.

Lemmy probably isn't going to push any needles in either direction, but the fact that we can see them even here, shows just how widespread the infection really is, and there are millions of people reading this kind of chaos and just rolling their eyes and deciding to not get involved, to not have an opinion, to let whatever happens, happen.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'd agree with everything you said, except to point out that my own belief is that it's funded here as well. When I engage with them, I not only find the usual hinky shit, but as they get frustrated their perfect English tends to slip, not into full error but into the kind of phrasing that non-English speakers, especially Eastern Europeans, tend to fall into.

Nothing against Eastern Europeans -- in real life I personally know many Poles, Ukrainians, and even Russians, and they are generally the best, hardest working, coolest people you'd ever want to know -- but it does beg the question of why the everlivin' fuck a single bored Lemmy-reading Eastern European is running over a dozen alts to manipulate a post encouraging violence in the US, especially if the US is their adopted home.

Occam's Razor suggests the answer lies in a never-stopped, never fully revealed Internet Research Agency, but again that's just my personal opinion, lol.