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This actually isn't colonialism. It's theft, it's might makes right imperialism and coercion, but it's not colonialism. Taking another country's resources by gunpoint is not a colonial endeavor.
It's closer to Venezuela being forced into an unequal treaty than any genuine colonial relationship. Qing China, despite suffering numerous unequal treaties from multiple imperialists, giving up far more than what Venezuela has given up, and being led by a thoroughly incompetent government, was merely semi-colonized. Qing China had to give up entire provinces (Xinjiang, Tibet, Taiwan) on top of cities (Hong Kong, Macau, Qingdao) as concessions.
The conflation between signing unequal treaties and colonization is even worse when you consider Japan, which also signed unequal treaties starting with the Convention of Kanagawa where the Tokugawa Shogunate was forced at gunpoint to open ships to US merchant ships (this is euphemistically described within US curriculum as Japan "opening up"). Yet, we also know that Japan would quickly become an imperialist power themselves starting with Luuchuu and Korea. It doesn't make sense for Japan to go from colonized to colonizer without decolonization. But Japan underwent no such decolonization where imperialists were booted from Japan. The way to make sense of it is to say that despite the unequal treaties, Japan was never colonized, which meant it didn't need undergo decolonization before becoming a colonizer themselves.
Japan was never colonized despite the unequal treaties.
China was only semi-colonized because despite having its territories be slowly annexed, it still had a government of limited sovereignty with a population that constantly waged war to expel the imperialists.
Korea was colonized, but it was colonized through Japanese invasion of Korea. The unequal treaties it had with Japan paved the way towards Japanese colonization, but the treaties in and of themselves weren't colonization.
Yeah, unequal treaty is a great way to frame it. Just classic Great Power politics. "The strong do what they will, the weak suffer what they must" hours. Been the same since Thucydides wrote that 2500 years ago. Not every tributary relationship is colonial.
Colonialism is theft via force.
All theft is via force, whether that be implicit or explicit. Colonialism is more nuanced and historically contingent than just theft, else basically every relationship between states throughout all history could in some form be described as "colonial," in which case the word loses all meaning. There's an aspect of control (whether that is over land, people, etc) and theories of racial superiority that make colonialism different. There's also usually the idea of some kind of civilising mission, which in this case is entirely absent. I don't think it's accurate to describe colonialism as just "theft via force."
Only part of it. Colonialism needs a Colony to be established. The name comes from ancient times when greeks would leave the metropole (mothercity) and establish cities to trade with the metropole. Though unlike the general understanding of modern colonialism, the ancient greek colonialism never really resulted in an expansion of the metropole - the colonies acted as rival independent powers with only vague cultural kinship. Same with Crustumium which was an early roman colony and would also go to war with rome.
Its closer to just tribute or raiding.
Colonialism does not require a physical colony to exist, only a comprador class willing to give major concessions and sell out. Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso were giving billions of dollars of gold to France for free up until extremely recently and the French "occupation" was minimal to non-existent for decades before that. One-sided extractive relationships are easily enforced via the global system of capital ownership, sanctions and implied threats. Resources can be stolen and looted for free via overt war and occupation, but also via hybrid warfare and sanctions and "deals" made under duress and debt, often by leadership whose interests are more aligned with the colonizers than the people of the nation in which they reside. If you want me to use "neo-colonialism" to separate it then say so, but enough of this nonsense that "taking resources isn't a colonial endeavor" (lmao)
I said only part of it. You know I would have loved to engage in your argument if you did not immediately created a strawman to tear down by yourself.
Just admit you are wrong and this is colonialism
And that's what this is. Venezuela's resources and sovereignty being stolen by force. It's colonialism.
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This is so fundamentally incorrect I don't even know where to begin
The United States has no "guys" on the ground, they don't control Venezuela's policies, they're not shaping Venezuela as a colony of a metropole, they have no mechanism by which to determine the administrative decisions of the Venezuelan government other than naked force. It's more like an imperial relationship, where the oil is tribute. Calling it colonialism is like saying the Liao made the Song into a "colony" because the Song agreed to pay the Liao thousands of silk bolts every year not to raid them. Venezuela is giving oil as tribute to an imperial overlord, and that overlord is then selling that oil to Israel, and Venezuela is doing this so that imperial overlord doesn't fuck them up further. That's not a colonial relationship.
Colonization doesn't require "guys" on the ground. It can be done through financial instruments and institutional control and trade imbalances. This is colonialism 101.
You're right that it doesn't need guys on the ground, but just stealing somebody's resources isn't enough to mean it's colonialism. What "institutional control" are the Americans demostrating here? There's no "trade imbalances" or even "financial instruments" other than sanctions, and sanctions does not a colonialism make, unless you wanna claim that Russia and Iran and Cuba are also "colonised" by the United States because they're under US sanction. The EU stole Russia's central bank deposits by force. Does that mean Russia is a European colony?
The Americans are demonstrating total control over the Venezuelan government, getting them to capitulate to all their demands in terms of releasing political prisoners and cutting off trade to Cuba. The state itself is playing the role of the comprador
I think you and I have very different ideas of "total control." Releasing some political prisoners isn't so big a concession given the alternative, and stopping all trade to Cuba is more of a recognition of reality (the US fleet stationed off their coast would just sieze any boats) than some massive concession. Yes it's not good and a defeat, but it does not mean the United States has "total control" over Venezuela. As long as the comunes are not being dismantled and the operations of the Venezuela state continue to benefit the people of Venezuela, I don't see how this is total defeat with total control. You're essentially agreeing with Trump and co when they announced that they now have total control over Venezeula after kidnapping Maduro, which is mostly just kayfabe.
How about 100% of Venezuela's oil revenue being held in a US controlled Qatari fund. Is that enough "total control" for you? If the government continues playing the comprador, then yes this is the beginning of the end of the revolution in Venezuela and those things will be snuffed out as Venezuela is brought into alignment with the IMF playbook
Venezuela giving up it's oil revenues to US control is indeed giving up financial and institutional control and a form of colonialism.
Oil revenues are not the entirety of the Venezuela state budget (per here, roughly 50% which is obviously still insanely high) so can't be "total control." Again, it's obviously not good, but if somebody steals your shit and you lack the ability to get it back, does trying to work within the bounds of that reality rather than just being delusion and fighting to get your shit back, even though you know you can't, mean you're being a "comprador" with the thief? Venezuela isn't "giving up" anything. The United States has stolen their oil, and will continue to steal their oil. Might as well try to work within those bounds than just throw your hands up and get nothing.
Controlling 50% of a nation's budget is total control, let's be real. A state cannot function at 50%. It has to comply with the demands of those who can veto those funds.
Many users of this forum are flat out in denial that any colonialism is occurring, or that this compromises the Venezuelan state to the point that it is functionally controlled by the US now. People are actually arguing that the US won nothing and nothing has changed. It's colonial denialism. Glad Liberals and Hexbear users can come together in agreement, nothing weird is happening in Venezuela, no colonialism is happening.
I agree with you that this is bad, I'm not trying to claim it's not a serious defeat for the revolution. The United States has got a serious victory here for sure, I'm just pushing back on the idea that this is total control or it's some kind of colonial relationship akin to the many that have existed throughout history. It is different, and the Venezuelan state has far more room to maneuver than you seem to be making it out to be.
Having complete control of all oil revenue and 50% of the state budget is worse than some historical forms of colonialism. Again, still in denial about this
State budget only matters insofar as imports are concerned; that's all they need oil revenue for. Otherwise, they're still sovereign and in control of their own currency. The state still functions how they will. Venezuela is self-sufficient in food (per here), vastly expanding their generic drug production (from ~75% imports in 2016 to less than 45% in 2025 (per here and here), and local communes still provided vast amounts of state services. Venezuela will be going through a tough period (as it has for the past decade) but it is not the end of the world, nor has the revolution been defeated, and nor does the United States exhibit anything close to "total control" tantamount to colonising Venezuela.
People just make up fake theory on here. It's getting worse.