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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Already some amazing points here, but I will add one thing:

No matter how utopian your empire becomes, those who grow up in utopia do not have their guard up watching for evil in every corner. The Star Wars flipping back and forth from Republic to Empire over the millennia makes sense.

The federation existed for barely a millennia in its first incarnation. A fall of a galactic empire makes sense. Rebuilding it makes for good story.

Especially, and I can't stress this enough, when it is a parallel to the world we live in. Trek has always been a way to mirror events and teach moral lessons... But most of all, hope.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

The federation existed for barely a millennia in its first incarnation.

A millennium is still a good long time, in fairness. There are entire countries that haven't even come near to that.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 7 points 13 hours ago

Great points all around. "Hope and Kindness" may seem like obvious cliche lessons, but one could argue that in today's political climate they are as important as TOS calling out societal racism.

[–] Chemo@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

The Star Wars flipping back and forth from Republic to Empire over the millennia makes sense.

Star Wars society is a constant shithole. I don't think the slaves of Tatooine care about if the senate or the emperor rules.

A fall of a galactic empire makes sense.

It does, but this is not the plot of a single show but a constant theme in most of the new series.

[–] clucose@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

That discounts that star fleet has to be on watch against outside threats. This is the balance for their utopia.