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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don’t get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it’s pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible.

That's 100% what it is. It also sincerely makes me not want to use Discord, because even if this is what governments want, it's extremely bad for users.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I'm waiting for some government to outlaw collecting the information in general outside of official government agencies. I would love to see big tech squirm as they try to figure out a valid way to harvest the data in one country, but prevent it in another.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's fine if that's your personal response. This still feels like a misdirected and ultimately useless response though.

This is a government-created problem. Are we expecting widespread boycotts of Discord to change the government's mind? Of course not.

If it's extremely bad for users, then users need to change their government. Yeah, yeah, I know the excuses for not doing that, they don't listen, we are all powerless, it is the way it is, yadda yadda. It's a lie. We are powerful, they want us feeling powerless so we can't challenge them. Fuck that, challenge them. Government exists to represent us, it can exist in perpetuity only with our active and ongoing consent and participation. If people in totalitarian countries can overthrow their governments, so can we, we don't have to do it overnight, we don't have to do it over this one single isolated issue, but we can at least start working against them, eroding the structures that support them. Fuck governments like these, figure out ways to twist their arm, make things more difficult for them, and eventually, if we keep at it, we'll get what we want. We hold the power here, not them. We decide what kind of society we want to live in. We need to stop abdicating our responsibilities as citizens and actively fight against this shit.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By all means, challenge your government, but I'm not going to upload my ID to a database to use Discord. I can self host a thing that will accomplish the same goals without doing something that stupid.